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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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Default Which radiator?

I know this seems rather trivial but which would you guys rather go with?

Budget: $150~$180 after shipping and taxes.

A) A JVTR radiator
B) A Mishimoto

This is a track only car, I rather keep it cheap since it's sitting up front and can take a beating from rocks.

I've read good things about the Mishi's. The JVTR looks of similar construction. What do you guys think?

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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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Me and 4 maybe 5 other racers run this one.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2172599
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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Do those hold more fluid than the stock ones? Being 13 3/4" x 27 1/2" x 1"?

Should the stock fan be replaced w/ the purchase of a new radiator? I was hoping to use the stock fan and save some money.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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It is still a lot thicker then the OE radiators. About the fan, you will probably find it hard to run the OEM fan with a thicker radiator. It is freaking HUGE.

Plus all of us that run it, didn't have an OE fan, or they just wouldn't fit.


I saw no noticeable difference in temps, as compared to my KOYO radiator that ran previously.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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Default Re: Which radiator? (slammed_93_hatch)

In that case the Visteon is actually cheaper than the Mishimoto shipped with a 12" fan.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I saw no noticeable difference in temps, as compared to my KOYO radiator that ran previously.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good stuff.

How long have you been running this one?
Do they fit all Honda radiator caps?

Hey thanks for the help btw!
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 05:26 AM
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+1 for the C&R/Visteon unit, I'm using that in my car as well. Mine came with a cap, but it was the incorrect pressure. I think I had to buy one, as the stock one didn't fit. I might be remembering that wrong though, that was kind of a blur getting all that crap back together eight months ago.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 07:18 AM
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I've been rocking a Mishimoto full-size dual core radiator in my 94 GSR for almost 2 years. I got it back when they first came out and were $89!
I've just done 1 track day, a few autocrosses, and quite a few nonstop 12-16 hour roadtrips, but it's held up perfectly fine and I've never seen the water temp gauge move past normal cruising temp. It came with a radiator cap, also. It is thick enough that I had to remove the left-side/AC fan to clear my header (Comptech 4-2-1).
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1200 Hobos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In that case the Visteon is actually cheaper than the Mishimoto shipped with a 12" fan.

Good stuff.

How long have you been running this one?
Do they fit all Honda radiator caps?

Hey thanks for the help btw! </TD></TR></TABLE>

2 or 3 race weekends. I think it is only 2 though as i wrecked the car at the last race of the season, and we have had two races this year.

I don't know, my previous radiator was a koyo and some one took the cap off of it, so i don't even know if that one would fit.

Before summer comes i am going to swap out the cap though, i have been running the one they give you with no issues.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1200 Hobos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I rather keep it cheap since it's sitting up front and can take a beating from rocks.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Get some ⅛" hardware cloth from Lowe's or OSH and mount it to the core support in front of the radiator. That'll keep most of the debris from hitting whatever radiator you end up getting.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thawley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get some ⅛" hardware cloth from Lowe's or OSH and mount it to the core support in front of the radiator. That'll keep most of the debris from hitting whatever radiator you end up getting.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, thanks for tip!

I think Visteon it is. I contacted the vendor about the radiator caps to clear things up.

I was looking for a two row but being a performance radiator as it is I think it should suite me fine for what I want to do and that's just track the car with reliability and keep it as cool as possible on those very hot summer days here in cali.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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idk about mishi but jvtr is just a copy of another company that makes 3 row radiator. I found jvtr even copied other's radiator picture and put on their site lol
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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Would one recommend a half or full radiator for a track car?
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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Also if you fabricaqte some simple ducting , it improves the radiators performance by a HUGE amount. I have made a mold and created fiberglass ducting for my 95 civic and a 91 CRX. I cant begin to tell you how much this has helped. I made a post about this awhile back but never posted the pics. I will see if i can find some pics. Basically it ensures any air entering the front goes through the radiator.

If you look at how the radiators sit stock you will see that air can go around the radiator pretty easily. Then high pressure builds up behind the radiator and there is little motivation for the air to go through the rad

Bolth cars run B series motors in H2. I have run the civic at Buttonwillow on a 104 degree day with no problems and the car ran below 190!! again I will try to get a pic up.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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ok, here we go
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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Default Re: Which radiator?

Originally Posted by petwhookie
Would one recommend a half or full radiator for a track car?
Full without a doubt...good luck...
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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Running an Integra Mishi with a 12 inch fan in my EG.
I paid 150 including cap. no issues with it heating up at all.
What i do need is to construct a duct like Juan has.... thats pretty neat!
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by slammed_93_hatch
Me and 4 maybe 5 other racers run this one.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2172599
thats what ive got!
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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I ended up going with the Visteon. Quality piece for sure. I've since sold my project car though (along with the radiator) I'm now running a fluidyne on my daily. That trick Juan has fabricated is a great idea though, I'm sure it helps a ton. The thicker radiators already help keep the car cool by a lot and that ducting would just improve the performace even more.
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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I got a jvtr and it fit better than the stock one, go figure. I thought it would need some mods but it dropped right in
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Default Re: Which radiator?

Originally Posted by petwhookie
Would one recommend a half or full radiator for a track car?
Full radiator is your best bet. Most of the people that have the half end up with temp issues on hot days. I have the full koyo radiator without a fan and haven't had an issue with it. But it is rather expensive. My brother has a stock integra full and has no issues either.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by davewright
Full radiator is your best bet. Most of the people that have the half end up with temp issues on hot days. I have the full koyo radiator without a fan and haven't had an issue with it. But it is rather expensive. My brother has a stock integra full and has no issues either.
i'm also running a full size koyo in my EG as well and the only issue would be the work involved to make it fit 'properly' without hitting the hood.

for the OP, my Koyo didn't come with a rad cap so i had to go out and buy one. The OEM Honda cap didn't fit (from my EG rad), as the Koyo uses the bigger cap..'Type F?' or something?
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