9K RPM
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9K RPM
So I just got my 08 SI last weekend and already put about 750 miles on it so it's pretty much past the break-in period and this evening I was on the interstate late at night and some lexus pulled up beside me and started revvin at me, then takes off, so I let him get about 5 car lengths lead and drop it to 3rd, quickly to 4th and onto 5th. The bad part (maybe): When I was shifting from 5th to 6th, I accidently moved into 4th instead 
and let the clutch out and immediately I knew what I did and reacted quickly but the tach moved faster than me up to the 9k rpm mark. Now it was just for a split second and I'm not sure if the engine even had enough time to actually get up to that RPM so my question is, what kind of damage (if any) is done to my engine??? 
after I got home I popped the hood w/ the engine running and didn't hear any abnormal sounds so I'm guessing that it might not have done anything. I'm just thankful 1 of my rods didn't shoot thru my hood because that would have been 1 hell of an expensive run.
and let the clutch out and immediately I knew what I did and reacted quickly but the tach moved faster than me up to the 9k rpm mark. Now it was just for a split second and I'm not sure if the engine even had enough time to actually get up to that RPM so my question is, what kind of damage (if any) is done to my engine??? after I got home I popped the hood w/ the engine running and didn't hear any abnormal sounds so I'm guessing that it might not have done anything. I'm just thankful 1 of my rods didn't shoot thru my hood because that would have been 1 hell of an expensive run.
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Re: 9K RPM (mzaner)
Your fine man, the K20 Z is built like a brick **** house. Its a confirmed fact that the factory tach reads high when up in the revs and it takes a few seconds to break **** for the most part. I went to 2nd at 75 once in total confusion because someone had stopped on the interstate and I was trying to slow down with the quickness. My car still runs great, gets 35 highway average and doesnt burn a drop of oil between changes 
Dont make a habit out of it is all I have to say
Happy motoring
Dont make a habit out of it is all I have to say
Happy motoring
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Re: 9K RPM (Tokyosmash!)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tokyosmash! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> and doesnt burn a drop of oil between changes :
Happy motoring </TD></TR></TABLE>
how did u break it in?
Happy motoring
</TD></TR></TABLE>how did u break it in?
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Re: 9K RPM (100miles+)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 100miles+ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea your good, just make sure you go hard to the right and dont worry about reverse </TD></TR></TABLE>
you forced me to quote myself, yes there is a lockout when rolling forward.
</TD></TR></TABLE>you forced me to quote myself, yes there is a lockout when rolling forward.
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Re: 9K RPM (Tokyosmash!)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tokyosmash! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your fine man, the K20 Z is built like a brick **** house.</TD></TR></TABLE> Thank you for the reassurance because I was pretty worried.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RICO_ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you haven't pulled on him by the time you hit 6th gear then you either....
A) Lost the race
B) Let him get too far ahead of you before you decided to catch up.
</TD></TR></TABLE> I caught him at the end of 5th gear and just nosed up in front of him before making my mistake but I decided to shut down anyways because it was night and we were going 115+ and it wasn't as much of a race as it was 'see how far I can let you get in front of me and yet still catch you'
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RICO_ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you haven't pulled on him by the time you hit 6th gear then you either....
A) Lost the race
B) Let him get too far ahead of you before you decided to catch up.
</TD></TR></TABLE> I caught him at the end of 5th gear and just nosed up in front of him before making my mistake but I decided to shut down anyways because it was night and we were going 115+ and it wasn't as much of a race as it was 'see how far I can let you get in front of me and yet still catch you'
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Re: 9K RPM (mzaner)
I'm a honda tech and in addition to what the first couple fellas said, We've seen other K20's in RSX's they will actually turn on a CEL for an over rev condition. so if your CEL isn't on your probobly ok like these guys have said
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Re: 9K RPM (zeppllin3)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zeppllin3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm a honda tech and in addition to what the first couple fellas said, We've seen other K20's in RSX's they will actually turn on a CEL for an over rev condition. so if your CEL isn't on your probobly ok like these guys have said</TD></TR></TABLE>
At what RPM does the over-rev CEL come on?
At what RPM does the over-rev CEL come on?
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Re: 9K RPM (mzaner)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mzaner »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Thank you for the reassurance because I was pretty worried.
I caught him at the end of 5th gear and just nosed up in front of him before making my mistake but I decided to shut down anyways because it was night and we were going 115+ and it wasn't as much of a race as it was 'see how far I can let you get in front of me and yet still catch you' </TD></TR></TABLE>
Why were you shifting to 6th if you were only doing 115?
I don't shift to 6th until 135...
I caught him at the end of 5th gear and just nosed up in front of him before making my mistake but I decided to shut down anyways because it was night and we were going 115+ and it wasn't as much of a race as it was 'see how far I can let you get in front of me and yet still catch you'
</TD></TR></TABLE>Why were you shifting to 6th if you were only doing 115?
I don't shift to 6th until 135...
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You should be careful, ive read some stories over on clubrsx that they did the same thing and had no problems. Down the line they started experiencing some things wrong with the motor, hope your k20 is still good
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Re: 9K RPM (mzaner)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mzaner »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I caught him at the end of 5th gear and just nosed up in front of him before making my mistake but I decided to shut down anyways because it was night and we were going 115+ and it wasn't as much of a race as it was 'see how far I can let you get in front of me and yet still catch you' </TD></TR></TABLE>
If you had already caught him and nosed ahead of him then you should have just let off the gas in 5th gear and let the RPMs and speed drop back to a moderate level and then shift into 6th.
6th gear is useless when racing. It's pretty much just a cruising gear.
I caught him at the end of 5th gear and just nosed up in front of him before making my mistake but I decided to shut down anyways because it was night and we were going 115+ and it wasn't as much of a race as it was 'see how far I can let you get in front of me and yet still catch you'
</TD></TR></TABLE>If you had already caught him and nosed ahead of him then you should have just let off the gas in 5th gear and let the RPMs and speed drop back to a moderate level and then shift into 6th.
6th gear is useless when racing. It's pretty much just a cruising gear.
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Re: 9K RPM (MRK20)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MRK20 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How did you accidentally drop it into 4th? Its kinda hard to do.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's pretty easy to do if you don't push to the right lightly when shifting from 5th to 6th.
Also, to the OP. Listen closely and make sure you aren't hearing any whirring or a faint hum noise in any of the gears. The differential can be damaged from a mis-shift. More than likely if it just went to 9k you are more than likely fine though.
Last point, not to freak you out but that over-rev is now logged in your ECM. If you have any drivetrain issues down the road and the dealer chooses to be a ***** they could blame it on the mis-shift. If you know any honda techs you should have them wipe it for you.
Please take this as a warning sign not to drive so aggressive. If you blow your motor into pieces you will be wondering why you had to be so immature and stupid (had it happen and cost me 5k).
It's pretty easy to do if you don't push to the right lightly when shifting from 5th to 6th.
Also, to the OP. Listen closely and make sure you aren't hearing any whirring or a faint hum noise in any of the gears. The differential can be damaged from a mis-shift. More than likely if it just went to 9k you are more than likely fine though.
Last point, not to freak you out but that over-rev is now logged in your ECM. If you have any drivetrain issues down the road and the dealer chooses to be a ***** they could blame it on the mis-shift. If you know any honda techs you should have them wipe it for you.
Please take this as a warning sign not to drive so aggressive. If you blow your motor into pieces you will be wondering why you had to be so immature and stupid (had it happen and cost me 5k).
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Re: 9K RPM (COMplex.)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by COMplex. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why were you shifting to 6th if you were only doing 115?
I don't shift to 6th until 135...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lol, I was thinking the same thing. If your going to be foolish enough to street race, you might as well do it all the way.
However, I never took my car to 8,200 rpm in 5th when it was stock, only after it was supercharged. Does it take long to get to Redline in 5th on a stock motor? Sure does not take long with the supercharger.
Why were you shifting to 6th if you were only doing 115?
I don't shift to 6th until 135...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lol, I was thinking the same thing. If your going to be foolish enough to street race, you might as well do it all the way.
However, I never took my car to 8,200 rpm in 5th when it was stock, only after it was supercharged. Does it take long to get to Redline in 5th on a stock motor? Sure does not take long with the supercharger.
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Re: 9K RPM (Floored)
"Last point, not to freak you out but that over-rev is now logged in your ECM. If you have any drivetrain issues down the road and the dealer chooses to be a ***** they could blame it on the mis-shift. If you know any honda techs you should have them wipe it for you. "
I know this is true, but can't a mechanic clear that data from the ECM? When my mechanics Dyno'ed my car to 151 MPH, they were able to remove that data from the ECM. Can you do the same with a high rev?
Just wondering. If so, it might be worth paying the money to get the "acts of stupidity" removed from the EC's memory.
I know this is true, but can't a mechanic clear that data from the ECM? When my mechanics Dyno'ed my car to 151 MPH, they were able to remove that data from the ECM. Can you do the same with a high rev?
Just wondering. If so, it might be worth paying the money to get the "acts of stupidity" removed from the EC's memory.
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Re: 9K RPM (Bulli Kid)
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how did u break it in?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Been running it hard since 150 miles, I get 35 average highway economy, dont burn a drop, runs like a tank
how did u break it in?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Been running it hard since 150 miles, I get 35 average highway economy, dont burn a drop, runs like a tank
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Re: 9K RPM (COMplex.)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by COMplex. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why were you shifting to 6th if you were only doing 115?
I don't shift to 6th until 135...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not to be a dick but I did say 115+...the key there is the + sign, meaning I was just going pretty fast. sorry I don't know the actual MPH but I def. know when to shift.
BTW: I found this vid of this guy in his SI pushing 8,500 RPM or more for a couple of
secs. Not sure if he has any aftermarkets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Floored »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Last point, not to freak you out but that over-rev is now logged in your ECM. If you have any drivetrain issues down the road and the dealer chooses to be a ***** they could blame it on the mis-shift. If you know any honda techs you should have them wipe it for you. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thank you for that bit of info. Wasn't aware of that.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ChargedSI »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">However, I never took my car to 8,200 rpm in 5th when it was stock, only after it was supercharged. Does it take long to get to Redline in 5th on a stock motor? Sure does not take long with the supercharger.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would say it probably took me around 5 secs after shifting from 4th to 5th to reach 8,000 RPM. At least it seemed that short.
I don't shift to 6th until 135...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not to be a dick but I did say 115+...the key there is the + sign, meaning I was just going pretty fast. sorry I don't know the actual MPH but I def. know when to shift.
BTW: I found this vid of this guy in his SI pushing 8,500 RPM or more for a couple of
secs. Not sure if he has any aftermarkets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Floored »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Last point, not to freak you out but that over-rev is now logged in your ECM. If you have any drivetrain issues down the road and the dealer chooses to be a ***** they could blame it on the mis-shift. If you know any honda techs you should have them wipe it for you. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thank you for that bit of info. Wasn't aware of that.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ChargedSI »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">However, I never took my car to 8,200 rpm in 5th when it was stock, only after it was supercharged. Does it take long to get to Redline in 5th on a stock motor? Sure does not take long with the supercharger.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would say it probably took me around 5 secs after shifting from 4th to 5th to reach 8,000 RPM. At least it seemed that short.
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Re: 9K RPM (MRK20)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MRK20 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How did you accidentally drop it into 4th? Its kinda hard to do.</TD></TR></TABLE>
False. Its easy, and it pisses me off. You have put your shoulder to the SOB to get it to move right and into 6th. Are there any mods to fix this stiffness? I put a SS in with aftermarket cable bushings and still have the problem. Should i have gotten the base also? My roommate just got a 6 speed G35 and this issue really makes me re-think my Si, especially after breaking my right shoulder.
Oh, and it doesn't let you put it in to reverse over 10mph. Can't even push it OVER (to the right), let alone down into to gear
False. Its easy, and it pisses me off. You have put your shoulder to the SOB to get it to move right and into 6th. Are there any mods to fix this stiffness? I put a SS in with aftermarket cable bushings and still have the problem. Should i have gotten the base also? My roommate just got a 6 speed G35 and this issue really makes me re-think my Si, especially after breaking my right shoulder.
Oh, and it doesn't let you put it in to reverse over 10mph. Can't even push it OVER (to the right), let alone down into to gear
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Re: 9K RPM (ChargedSI)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ChargedSI »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
However, I never took my car to 8,200 rpm in 5th when it was stock, only after it was supercharged. Does it take long to get to Redline in 5th on a stock motor? Sure does not take long with the supercharger.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's pretty quick stock too.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mzaner »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not to be a dick but I did say 115+...the key there is the + sign, meaning I was just going pretty fast. sorry I don't know the actual MPH but I def. know when to shift.
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You claim to "know when to shift" but you certainly don't know how to change gears properly.
For anyone who says it is easy to go to 4th, instead of 6th, you are insane.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jaepalm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
False. Its easy, and it pisses me off. You have put your shoulder to the SOB to get it to move right and into 6th. Are there any mods to fix this stiffness? I put a SS in with aftermarket cable bushings and still have the problem. Should i have gotten the base also? My roommate just got a 6 speed G35 and this issue really makes me re-think my Si, especially after breaking my right shoulder. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That quote even further proves that it is hard to mistake 4th for 6th. 6th is 'stiff' and 'far' for a reason; so that you know you are putting it into 6th, not 4th. But I don't know what you mean by "get it to move right and into 6th". The only time the transmission should be shifting into 6th, is from 5th, a straight down pattern. From 5th, 4th is down and to the left, so I really don't see how it could happen, if a person knows how to shift properly.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jaepalm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Oh, and it doesn't let you put it in to reverse over 10mph. Can't even push it OVER (to the right), let alone down into to gear </TD></TR></TABLE>
The reverse lock-out won't let you put the car into reverse if it is moving, at any speed. You must come to a full stop before putting the car into reverse, which should be done, with reverse lock-out or without it.
However, I never took my car to 8,200 rpm in 5th when it was stock, only after it was supercharged. Does it take long to get to Redline in 5th on a stock motor? Sure does not take long with the supercharger.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's pretty quick stock too.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mzaner »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not to be a dick but I did say 115+...the key there is the + sign, meaning I was just going pretty fast. sorry I don't know the actual MPH but I def. know when to shift.
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You claim to "know when to shift" but you certainly don't know how to change gears properly.
For anyone who says it is easy to go to 4th, instead of 6th, you are insane.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jaepalm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
False. Its easy, and it pisses me off. You have put your shoulder to the SOB to get it to move right and into 6th. Are there any mods to fix this stiffness? I put a SS in with aftermarket cable bushings and still have the problem. Should i have gotten the base also? My roommate just got a 6 speed G35 and this issue really makes me re-think my Si, especially after breaking my right shoulder. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That quote even further proves that it is hard to mistake 4th for 6th. 6th is 'stiff' and 'far' for a reason; so that you know you are putting it into 6th, not 4th. But I don't know what you mean by "get it to move right and into 6th". The only time the transmission should be shifting into 6th, is from 5th, a straight down pattern. From 5th, 4th is down and to the left, so I really don't see how it could happen, if a person knows how to shift properly.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jaepalm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Oh, and it doesn't let you put it in to reverse over 10mph. Can't even push it OVER (to the right), let alone down into to gear </TD></TR></TABLE>
The reverse lock-out won't let you put the car into reverse if it is moving, at any speed. You must come to a full stop before putting the car into reverse, which should be done, with reverse lock-out or without it.
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Re: 9K RPM (2008fijibluesi)
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The only time the transmission should be shifting into 6th, is from 5th, a straight down pattern. From 5th, 4th is down and to the left, so I really don't see how it could happen, if a person knows how to shift properly.
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wow thanks, maybe you can help me with my long division too.
on our cars, going "straight down" gets you in 4th, which is why i bitched about shifting in the Si in the first place. I have to alter my grip /the way i throw to get it to go, what FEELS like, down and to the right.
I'm done bickering. Anyone have a solution? I LOVE my Si, but my 95 Sautrn shifted easier. pathetic.
The only time the transmission should be shifting into 6th, is from 5th, a straight down pattern. From 5th, 4th is down and to the left, so I really don't see how it could happen, if a person knows how to shift properly.
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wow thanks, maybe you can help me with my long division too.
on our cars, going "straight down" gets you in 4th, which is why i bitched about shifting in the Si in the first place. I have to alter my grip /the way i throw to get it to go, what FEELS like, down and to the right.
I'm done bickering. Anyone have a solution? I LOVE my Si, but my 95 Sautrn shifted easier. pathetic.