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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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I've got an 86 Civic Si and I was thinking of swapping motors. The easiest one looks like the 86-87 Integra swap but I was looking at going with the 88-89 Integra. Does anyone know how much of the wiring I would have to change in order to run the blacktop motor? Obviously I know i would have to change the distributor and remove the vacuum advance controls and I believe i would have to add a vss. Would i be able to add wires or splice into the existing civic harness or would i have to swap the entire engine bay harness from the integra?

any help would be appreciated. BTW i have a B16 but im saving it for an EF hatch and the D16/ZC seems more period correct.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ej14life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
any help would be appreciated. BTW i have a B16 but im saving it for an EF hatch and the D16/ZC seems more period correct.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have issues with that comment... whatever..


i do not know what wires have to be added/subtracted but you definately can just add the wires, no need to completely swap wiring harness.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 04:34 AM
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http://technet.ff-squad.com/how-to/84-87hybrid/

this may help a little. it exlpains how to keep the vacuum advance.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by E-AT_me &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://technet.ff-squad.com/how-to/84-87hybrid/

this may help a little. it exlpains how to keep the vacuum advance.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, I want to run the electronic advance ignition.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by E-AT_me &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i have issues with that comment... whatever..


i do not know what wires have to be added/subtracted but you definately can just add the wires, no need to completely swap wiring harness.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And what issues might that be? I did think about doing that swap and it wasn't money, fitment, or making it work that stopped me.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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i don't understand why people are upset about the B being not "period correct" when it was under development in the 80's and was run in some "in house" test mule 87 CRX's. i dunno. i'm a "resto-mod" kind of guy. looking "period correct" as for rims, i agree. motors. eh. too many people are worried about that i feel. that is ok if you aren't, but i've seen waaay too many EW VS. B series and D16a1 vs B series arguments in my day. i say do it if you've got it. why let the B series sit around your house "waiting" for a project when you already have one? i've got a B series in my AH, but i also have 2 EF's.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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Those are some good points and actually with the way the single cam has been running recently, maybe the b series might be pushed to the front of the line. But i dunno i still remember being in high school and reading the Mugen/HKS catalogs and seeing the EA civics in Japan with the ZC hoods/engine and wondering why we(US) didn't get that engine.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ej14life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BTW i have a B16 but im saving it for an EF hatch and the D16/ZC seems more period correct.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And do you think there is some kind of big cash prize for having a motor that is 'period correct'?

<FONT SIZE="14">WHO CARES??</FONT>

If you would like the power of a B16A in a 1986 Civic, then go for it! Consider that the 1986 Civic is probably quite a bit lighter than whatever body you would consider the B16A to be more 'appropriate' in. And you will end up with a faster car.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StorminMatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

And do you think there is some kind of big cash prize for having a motor that is 'period correct'?

<FONT SIZE="14">WHO CARES??</FONT>

If you would like the power of a B16A in a 1986 Civic, then go for it! Consider that the 1986 Civic is probably quite a bit lighter than whatever body you would consider the B16A to be more 'appropriate' in. And you will end up with a faster car.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Duuuuude! Is all that crap necessary. The original topic of my post was to see how to wire the 88-89 engine. Im not asking which engine to put in the car. I was just stating the reason why I wasn't going to use the B16 because I was positive that someone would tell me to throw a B16/B18 in the car so I guess thanks for proving my point. BTW I was sure hoping to win 1st prize in the most "period correct" pageant at the JCCS this year.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 02:02 AM
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yeah, i hear you. i understand your points, and a lot of people seem that way, but i don't think these cars will ever be that every much collectible that a lot of people would care that much about being period correct. yes, it is cool. but for every day reliable power, B series are darn fun!! i'll try and figure out an answer for your other question today for you, though, since no one else is helping.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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http://www.redpepperracing.com...tegra
http://www.redpepperracing.com...tegra
http://muller.net/sonny/crx/

try those on for size.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Thanks for the info. I think its time I join Red Pepper. I guess I should expect that guys comments here on HT. An EA with a B series would make a good sleeper....
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Were all on the same web sites...
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