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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 04:02 AM
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I just went to comptechs site to see how much their header costs, and I saw a dyno graph of a header, filter, and exhaust VS. a header, filter, exhaust and ECU. The one with the ECU made 10 hp more...
Is this gain just on 98 ITRs, or would 2000, and 2001 ITRs see the increase too?

http://www.comptechusa.com/images/dy...peRECUplot.pdf
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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 04:27 AM
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It is definitely possible. One of my chipped P28 ECUs gave me about 10 Hp and 10 ft-lbs of torque in the midrange without any fuel tuning via a fuel controller.

I will post a dyno graph soon...

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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 11:04 AM
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I don't believe it,there talking about chipping your existing ECU running there program,10 WHP is hard to believe. If you were switching to a p30 or 28 obd1 I would.But I've never seen a WHP increase from chipping an ECU.
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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 11:12 AM
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Default Re: ECU = 10hp? (maggsgsr)

I don't believe it,there talking about chipping your existing ECU running there program,10 WHP is hard to believe. If you were switching to a p30 or 28 obd1 I would.But I've never seen a WHP increase from chipping an ECU.
So you've never seen a WHP difference from using an ECU better suited to your mods with better fuel and timing curves?
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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 02:57 PM
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My skunk2 chip program pulled a lot harder than the USDM b16 ecu im using now.. and both are ODB1... 10 HP might be a little much, but defenitly possible... VTEC was a difference between night and day..

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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 03:04 PM
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Default Re: ECU = 10hp? (maggsgsr)

I'll be trying out Kenji's P28 re-chipped ECU in the next few months. I believe all his products deliver as promised.

Anyway, the follwing is the info I got from Kenji: (cut and paste)

"I have attached a dyno graph of what one of my P28 ECUs did to my '98 ITR. The only difference is the ECU."

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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 03:33 PM
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Kenji, do you make a program for toda spec B's?
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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 04:10 PM
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it's just like tunning stuffs, and i believe tunning is more important than anything
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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 04:23 PM
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it's just like tunning stuffs, and i believe tunning is more important than anything
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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 05:55 PM
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Default Re: ECU = 10hp? (DC2#428)

Cosworth,

Thanks for posting that dyno graph for me. I think we-todd-did-racing is down so I could not post any pics.

Please keep in mind that I did not tune the ECU with a fuel controller. There is still a good amount of power to be found up top and down low by using a fuel controller (e.g. VAFC or Field).

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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 08:48 AM
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Well what I'm saying is I've never seen an 0bd11 ECU get 10 WHP from an ECU program.
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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 09:20 AM
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I don't believe it,there talking about chipping your existing ECU running there program,10 WHP is hard to believe. If you were switching to a p30 or 28 obd1 I would.But I've never seen a WHP increase from chipping an ECU.
My tuned Hondata was accidently switched to another program and I went from 196 to 180. I put in Kenji's ecu and untuned I was 192. Does that count.
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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 09:43 AM
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Well to clairify,It's my understanding that 0bd2 ECU's are almost impossible to chip and gain anything worth mentioning,ITR's are all 0bd2,until I see the dyno its hard for me to believe chipping an 0bd2 ecu and gaining 10WHP.
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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 09:49 AM
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Well to clairify,It's my understanding that 0bd2 ECU's are almost impossible to chip and gain anything worth mentioning,ITR's are all 0bd2,until I see the dyno its hard for me to believe chipping an 0bd2 ecu and gaining 10WHP.
Dude, P28 ECU that Kenji chips is <u>OBD-1</u>. I don't think anyone ever said anything about chipping an OBD-2 ECU anywhere in this post.
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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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Default Re: ECU = 10hp? (maggsgsr)

Well to clairify,It's my understanding that 0bd2 ECU's are almost impossible to chip and gain anything worth mentioning,ITR's are all 0bd2,until I see the dyno its hard for me to believe chipping an 0bd2 ecu and gaining 10WHP.
well the point is kinda moot since the ecu wont work on a 00-01 anyways whcih was the guys question.. so if you have a 00/01 just use a p28 and switch to obdi
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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 09:58 AM
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Default Re: ECU = 10hp? (Cosworth)

Dude, P28 ECU that Kenji chips is <u>OBD-1</u>. I don't think anyone ever said anything about chipping an OBD-2 ECU anywhere in this post.
Comptechs ECU is not OBD1.
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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 10:04 AM
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Default Re: ECU = 10hp? (Dave-ROR)

Yea,there not givin you a chipped p28,there chipping your existing 0bd2.
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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 10:05 AM
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Default Re: ECU = 10hp? (Dave-ROR)

i am running kenjis p28 obd1 prog. and i love it! makes my b16 scoot plus kenjis great to deal with! good luck, eric
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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 10:15 AM
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Default Re: ECU = 10hp? (maggsgsr)

Yea,there not givin you a chipped p28,there chipping your existing 0bd2.
My apologies. Didn't know Comptech re-uses OBD-2 prog... HOWEVER, since comptech has ties to Acura/Honda, they probably can crack the OBD-2 codes a lot easier than most guys out there. Hence, you could see some gains... but, most of us go with OBD-1 P28 ecu anyway.
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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 03:22 PM
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Default Re: ECU = 10hp? (kenji)


check ur im


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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 03:23 PM
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check ur im


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then check your email

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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 07:42 AM
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Kenji's p28 is very very good. I just recently got it last sat and driven it hard once. Pull is definately noticeable after 4500rpm all the way up. Vtec streams and is stronger. I will post a better review once this BS rain goes away. Heading to the dyno in two weeks so will post a before and after plot of just the ecu. Aside from the performance standpoint. Kenji is very professional and courteous. Answered all emails in a timely manner and received shipment on day as promised. Kenji imho gets a BIG
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 08:42 AM
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Walter,

Thanks for the kind words.

I have found that when you do a mod and it rains it is a good sign. Due to the fact that you can not go out and enjoy the mod when you do it.

-kenji
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 09:54 AM
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Kenji

Let's just say Vtec + 11000miles stock tires + rain = slip n slide
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 10:51 AM
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If you think that program rocks, you should try the Mugen N1 program that I have (Kenji has it now too). Unless he integrated the two programs since I got an ECU from him, the Mugen proggy was stronger than his.
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