Looking for a suspension set up close to factory ride quality, i dont auto-x its my daily driver.. and only want to remove fender gap from the 15's i have on it.. what would be a good choice to look in too..

ive read through about 20 pages of shocks and springs but most of the threads are about handling..

currently have a 94 cx hatch
thanks for any help

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sevindust2404 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looking for a suspension set up close to factory ride quality, i dont auto-x its my daily driver.. and only want to remove fender gap from the 15's i have on it.. what would be a good choice to look in too..

ive read through about 20 pages of shocks and springs but most of the threads are about handling..

currently have a 94 cx hatch
thanks for any help </TD></TR></TABLE>

While this has been covered countless times, it is probably hard to search for.

Wheel size is irrelevant. If you have the correctly sized tires, the total diameter is the same regardless of the wheel size.

If you want to go lower, you need to go stiffer. Bottoming out your suspension isn't exactly nice on the ride quality, nor the parts.

The lower you want to go, the stiffer you'll need to be. And flushed tires is dumped, please don't think otherwise.

If you want flushed tires, you'll probably need to be up around 500+ lbs/in spring rate in the front. I ran flushed tires with 400 lbs/in rates on my Integra (same suspension), and did bottom out the shocks periodically, once even hard enough for the impact to crack my radiator.

And please, do NOT install a front camber kit. I had to raise my Integra 2" after I installed my SPC UCAs, due to how sliding balljoint (and offset balljoint) camber kits are taller than stock. Its completely unnecessary unless you need to dial in even more camber for race purposes.

If ride quality is actually your primary concern, then just get a nice set of shocks (Illuminas, Koni Red/Yellow, KYB AGX), and some Eibach pro-kit springs. if you want lower than that, look into the Eibach Sportline springs.

If cosmetics are your primary concern, sacrifices must be made, rates must go up, and your gf will not want to ride in the car. I'm swapping from 400/400 rates to 550/600 soon (awaiting install), and my gf has already announced that we're taking her car everywhere from now on.

 

just get lowering springs that won't make ur car too low. cuz im thinking about getting sum tanabe nf210, heard there not too low (1.3/1.0) drop and not too stiff of a ride. i too have 15's on my civic (195-50) so im still having a tough time deciding wat to do or get. do a whole coil over setup or just lowering springs?

 

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While this has been covered countless times, it is probably hard to search for.

Wheel size is irrelevant. If you have the correctly sized tires, the total diameter is the same regardless of the wheel size.

If you want to go lower, you need to go stiffer. Bottoming out your suspension isn't exactly nice on the ride quality, nor the parts.

The lower you want to go, the stiffer you'll need to be. And flushed tires is dumped, please don't think otherwise.

If you want flushed tires, you'll probably need to be up around 500+ lbs/in spring rate in the front. I ran flushed tires with 400 lbs/in rates on my Integra (same suspension), and did bottom out the shocks periodically, once even hard enough for the impact to crack my radiator.

And please, do NOT install a front camber kit. I had to raise my Integra 2" after I installed my SPC UCAs, due to how sliding balljoint (and offset balljoint) camber kits are taller than stock. Its completely unnecessary unless you need to dial in even more camber for race purposes.

If ride quality is actually your primary concern, then just get a nice set of shocks (Illuminas, Koni Red/Yellow, KYB AGX), and some Eibach pro-kit springs. if you want lower than that, look into the Eibach Sportline springs.

If cosmetics are your primary concern, sacrifices must be made, rates must go up, and your gf will not want to ride in the car. I'm swapping from 400/400 rates to 550/600 soon (awaiting install), and my gf has already announced that we're taking her car everywhere from now on.</TD></TR></TABLE>

cool, im just rolling a set of ls-meshes right now with 195-55-15's, it has blown tokico's and some ebay coilovers that were on the car when i bought it..

ill look in too the agx's since i dont fee like paying around 1,000.. how do you think they would fare with a set of skunk 2 coil overs?

thanks bro

 

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cool, im just rolling a set of ls-meshes right now with 195-55-15's, it has blown tokico's and some ebay coilovers that were on the car when i bought it..

ill look in too the agx's since i dont fee like paying around 1,000.. how do you think they would fare with a set of skunk 2 coil overs?

thanks bro</TD></TR></TABLE>

the sk2 slip over coilovers run mid-high spring rates, if you do decide to go with them make sure to get the civic application (8k/6k). I'm sure running 8k/6k will be just stiff enough for a 2.5inch+ drop. I've had the GC (OTS spring rates) paired with kyb agx's and ride quality was pretty nice. I got alot of compliments on how nice my car rode at the drop i was at (roughly 2-2.5inchs all around, shocks set to 1 all around). I did get some bottom out issues in the front, but it happend only when i hit big pot holes (lasted me 2 years, 40k). Would i recommend this setup? Yes and No, yes if you plan to stay above 2.5inchs and No if you plan to go more than 2.5inchs. The agx's should really only be pushed to 2inchs max. Look into picking up a set of tokico illuminas, they are a better performing shock than the agx's and can with stand a lower drop.

 

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the sk2 slip over coilovers run mid-high spring rates, if you do decide to go with them make sure to get the civic application (8k/6k). I'm sure running 8k/6k will be just stiff enough for a 2.5inch+ drop. I've had the GC (OTS spring rates) paired with kyb agx's and ride quality was pretty nice. I got alot of compliments on how nice my car rode at the drop i was at (roughly 2-2.5inchs all around, shocks set to 1 all around). I did get some bottom out issues in the front, but it happend only when i hit big pot holes (lasted me 2 years, 40k). Would i recommend this setup? Yes and No, yes if you plan to stay above 2.5inchs and No if you plan to go more than 2.5inchs. The agx's should really only be pushed to 2inchs max. Look into picking up a set of tokico illuminas, they are a better performing shock than the agx's and can with stand a lower drop. </TD></TR></TABLE>

8k/6k = 448/336

Stiffer than I would go in the back (rear springs determine ride quality more than the front) for a pure street car, but probably stiff enough in the front to help prevent bottoming.

Others have more experience with the AGX shocks than me, but they should be sufficient for those rates.

However, 448/336 is significantly stiffer than the 220/110 (unless I'm remembering wrong) that the car came with, and it is not going to ride anything close to stock (which was the original request).

So, which is the desired goal, close to stock ride quality or dumped to flushed tires? Regardless, I would see if they offer a 4kg/mm spring for the back, as rear suspension travel is not usually an issue and the softer spring would help ride quality.

 

hell i know it wont be a cadillac being lowered, i just have blown shocks on the rear and its getting a little annoying... been like that for a month now while ive been saving money..

 

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Understandable. I'm just saying, you originally asked for "close to factory ride quality", and are now planning on running rear springs 3 times stiffer than stock, which will be nothing close to any factory ride quality (maybe a Lotus).

Either way, enjoy it once you get it on the car.

 

softer daily ride = H&R sports + OEM shocks.

 

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Understandable. I'm just saying, you originally asked for "close to factory ride quality", and are now planning on running rear springs 3 times stiffer than stock, which will be nothing close to any factory ride quality (maybe a Lotus).

Either way, enjoy it once you get it on the car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

cool stuff man... thanks for info..

 

I am going to keep beating this dead horse..... It's not all about the spring rate that determines ride quality, it's how the shocks are valved as well.

 

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H&R race + tokico illuminas