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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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Went to swap ring gears on my quaife and 9/10 of the ring gear bolts came out difficultly and stripped out some threads on the quaife. Called up Quaife and they do not have any gsr diffs or extra parts for the gsr diff available.

I could tap and helicoil it but its reverse thread and I cant find a reverse thread tap/helicoil kit anywhere. Does anyone have extra parts from a blown up quaife perhaps or know of any other solutions?

Thanks for the help guys.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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..Bring it to your local machine shop. they should have what you need
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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i have the left hand thread tap if you think that will work
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have the left hand thread tap if you think that will work
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Is it 11x1.0 ? (thats what I think it is). If the local machine shop doesnt have one then I'm on my way to PA dave!!

EDIT: I think the threads are too messed up to just run a tap in them, I think it needs to be helicoiled.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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Good luck tapping one of these, they are HARD...
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RacerStev &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good luck tapping one of these, they are HARD...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Seriously. Send it back to Quaife and have them clean the threads up. You have a small chance of killing the threads when using the OE bolts. They are much softer and will yield long before the quaife unit will. I have had customers bring me diffs like this...I will look to see where I bought my tap from.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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usually the bolts strip when you take them out, not the diff itself.. ill stick to my $350 obx lsd's
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93eh2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">usually the bolts strip when you take them out, not the diff itself.. ill stick to my $350 obx lsd's </TD></TR></TABLE>

i have noticed that as well. but if you loosen them in 2 or 3 stages, you will not strip the bolts out
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i have noticed that as well. but if you loosen them in 2 or 3 stages, you will not strip the bolts out
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i usually just zip them out in a couple seconds with the impact and then just get new bolts.

they strip because they are such a fine thread bolt and they are torqued down alot. but i still dont see how the diff itself stripped out unless the bolts were installed wrong to begin with.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 06:22 AM
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almost all of my bolts striped last year when we pulled the quaife from my ls tranny to put it in my gsr. Dave had his tap and he went through each hole and it has been holding fine.

Does anyone know if arp makes replacement bolts for this?
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 07:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by underpressure02 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">almost all of my bolts striped last year when we pulled the quaife from my ls tranny to put it in my gsr. Dave had his tap and he went through each hole and it has been holding fine.

Does anyone know if arp makes replacement bolts for this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

wait..... you said the bolts stripped and then you said you retapped the diff ??
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i have noticed that as well. but if you loosen them in 2 or 3 stages, you will not strip the bolts out
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I have seen this problem even with OEM diffs. You need to loosen then in stages and you will have no problems.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 07:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93eh2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

wait..... you said the bolts stripped and then you said you retapped the diff ??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes the bolts themself stripped and we ran the tap through the threads to clean them up. The quaife was pretty much fine. The bolts were pretty much smooth.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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Matco thread chasers FTW
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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Anyone know for sure what size tap I need? 11x1.0 perhaps?
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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ITs a 10x1.0 LH tap.
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 07:21 AM
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here is the screen shot of the OEM sevice manual... ever wonder why HONDA would suggest something ? gotta be a reason.

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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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So no one believes in heating the bolts with a torch? I do this every time I install a ring gear and have never had to order new bolts from honda......or ever hurt the threads on a diff
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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i think putting that much heat to a fianl drive might be a little un safe.
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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 02:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93LSivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So no one believes in heating the bolts with a torch? I do this every time I install a ring gear and have never had to order new bolts from honda......or ever hurt the threads on a diff </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ehhhh, I'd be a little iffy on doing that. Last thing you need to do is overheat it and warp the diff.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 07:49 AM
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Im not talking oxy-acetyln. Just a normal propane torch. Never had a problem and I've done quite a few (25+) like that and most in turbo applications that see they're fair share of abuse
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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In the last 2 months I took apart 2 GSR, 1 B16 and 1 LS tranny and I had no issue with any of the diff bolts, broke each one loose all the way individually in no criss cross pattern must of been beginners luck.
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