ok so i am going to do b20/vtec so do i just bore it out or sleeve it and if i can bore it what mm can i bore it out to lmk thxs

 

Bore it and sleeve it - both will increase your performance. I guess it depends on what you want to do with it...

 

how much performance will i get if i just sleeve it ?? cuz b20/vtec is no good if u don't sleeve right??

 

i am just going to sleeve it but can i use my old pistons and rings ???

 

any one know if i can use my old pistons and rings?

 

this is the most idiot thread i have ever read in my time on HT...

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are you kidding me? there should be a rule where you can offer any advice until your above a certain amout of posts and take a test to show your worth...

you can bore stock sleeves you can bore aftermarket sleeves...

sleeving does not give you any performance benefit like extra hp or soemthing magical like that. they are just there to simply offer better protection from heat since forged steel will melt at a higher temp then aluminum...

 

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please DO RESEARCH!!!
anyway you can use stock pistons and rings with stock bore only!

 

haha, pistons can be reused if the piston to bore clearance is within service limit. under no circumstances should you EVER re-use rings...

 

i now b20/vtec will not last long if it's not sleevd my boy had b20 vtec and he had it for like 4 or 5 months and i was shot

 

That's because b20 sleeves are very thin anyway, making them more prone to cracking.

Do your self a favor and sleeve it. Then in the future you can resleeve it. If you crack a stock sleeve the block is done.

 

so how long will the new sleeves hold up for

 

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you can bore stock sleeves you can bore aftermarket sleeves...

sleeving does not give you any performance benefit like extra hp or soemthing magical like that. they are just there to simply offer better protection from heat since forged steel will melt at a higher temp then aluminum...</TD></TR></TABLE>


Excuse my mispost, you're absolutely right about sleeving not adding performance by itself. I'll be sure to be explicitly clear next time I reply to someone.

I didn't mean that sleeving increases performance, I was saying doing both will increase performance.

As a side note, you might not even need to sleeve the motor depending on how much horsepower you'll be running, and also if you're running something like a turbo. If you're going to bore it, I'd do that first and then sleeve it. I don't think it makes much sense to sleeve something and then bore it out, but that's just my opinion.

Also, if you're looking to get serious horsepower be careful. There's a guy around here that dumped over $5,000 into his B18C1, and it ran about 650 whp. The problem is at that level of power, without all his motor parts being totally modified and reinforced, the motor totally blew after 3 months.


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You know, I realize that I just started a user profile with HT, but I have been reading the threads for a lot longer than that. And is it really necessary to demonstrate antisocial behavior and run around threads trying to e-thug and implying that people are idiots? How old are you?

And you know what, him asking a question on this forum IS research. If he already knew where to go to find out the answers to his particular questions, then why would he bother going here and risk asking a question that someone like you would crucify him for?

I don't care if you've been on HT for a year or longer. The rules of flaming still apply to you, and you can be respectful. It's crap like this that makes it difficult on moderators, and makes people want to avoid associating with this web site.

 

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It's going to depend on how much power you put into the motor, and how hard you run it. Like I said, the B18C1 motor with 650 whp was sleeved, and the whole motor only lasted 3 months. However, if you were to run, say, 300 whp or lower, you'd be just fine. Personally, if I were trying to build a drag car I would do it with a RWD 6 or 8 cylinder. Muscle cars are good for that, like the Chevy 350's. However, if you're going to stick to imports, a B18C1 or B20 motor will be good and competitive out on an autocross track with the right suspension.

As I mentioned in the beginning, it all depends on what you want to do with it. If you want something bad *** that takes just about any car from a stop light you can't expect a FWD to have better torque/traction/launch than a RWD or an AWD.

If you just want more power for your own entertainment, then keep it simple and try to be involved in as much of the work as you can so you can learn more about it. By learning more about how your car works with certain modifications, you'll be able to figure out what you really want to do to it. Hope that helps.

 

i was just looking to put the vtec head on and thats it not looking to get like 300hp or sum ****

 

Well, the B20 sleeves are pretty thin from what I've been told. If you're not looking to get more than 300 whp out of your car then you'll probably have a long life span for the motor. It might be beneficial, however, to sleeve it if you're dropping an aggressive vtech head on it. Better safe than sorry

 

not doing b20 vtec any more cuz my block is shot

 

Oh, wow that sucks. Sorry man