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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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See all the little casting marks, well after a very thorough cleaning (old pic shown) and letting it sit for 2 days it's leaking from that immediate area. No it's not the seal between the cases- I wish it was that simple.
So my question is and I know it's not the right way but... I need a quick fix to stop the leaking.
I have been told by so many to use JB Weld, but is there another way?
Has anyone ever had a trans leak from a spot like this before?

I will fix it properly in due time but I need the car up and running asap... Hopefully.

(by the way it's a ITR transmission)
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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I'd go with JB Weld. Not sure how much work you wanna do, but to be on the safe side I'd take the tranny out and give it a real good cleaning with some brake cleaner on the inside and stick some JB weld insdie too
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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Where exactly is it leaking from? How did you get cracks in that area?

How sure are you its not a seal. See that rubber boot, there is a seal behind it that, which seals the shift rod in the case. I'll bet that that seal has gone bad and the oil just collects in that general area.

And didn't you get a brand new tranny?
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 03:39 AM
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i find it hard to believe thats where its leaking. I guess its possible but I look at it like this. sometimes fluids seep around the engine in strange ways. sometimes you cant even find the "trail" it took to get there. sometimes you can spot oil at the corner of the head gasket, but magically it was actually leaking from the cam seal or vtec solenoid, you catch my drift. anyway if that is a leak in those cracks, you are gonna have to clean it good and hopefully the jb weld will stick in there. if you clean it and fluid fills the cracks again immediately, the jb weld is gonna have a hard time sticking and setting in the crack. the proper way to do it would be to have the trans out with no fluid so you could clean it and make sure no fluid was in there while you were putting on the jb weld.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 04:18 AM
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I would be very surprised if it is leaking through the actual casing. You might have a leak where the shift rod (#1) enters the tranny and it just appearing on the casing in that location.

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 04:48 AM
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My money is on the shift rod seal. Those are casting marks on the case. If you cracked the case there, you would have bigger problems to deal with first.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 04:57 AM
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99.99% SURE It's not from the boot seal, or anything simple. I had a friend ( car buddy) take a look last night and he said the same thing I have. The leak is coming from the top little nipple area and the surrounding casting marks.

I just need it to hold fluid, I need to use the car until I can get done with my moving then I will take it apart and do what ever is needed. But for now a cheap quick fix... Hopefully
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 05:08 AM
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JB weld is your best bet if it in fact is leaking from that area, but I agree it's hard to believe that is where its coming from.

I would do it right, drop the tranny, open it up and clean it out really well and then see if you see the same cracking inside. If you use JB weld just make sure you are careful to keep smooth surfaces.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 05:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.... But for now a cheap quick fix... Hopefully </TD></TR></TABLE>JB weld=cheap quick fix. Replacing the case=expensive proper fix
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 06:26 AM
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Try using some oil dye? It is much easier to trace that way.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 07:42 AM
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i would have to agree with bradstard and what the others have said, i could almost guarantee that it is not leaking from that casting mark.... i would check the seal for the rod that goes into the trans, like others have suggested i would put a dye into the trans case and go from there
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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I'm heading to the garage right now to take the drain bolt out so it can drip dry for Saturday.
I'll take some pictures while it's clean and still leaking.
I assure you, It's not the boot or case seal.

Be back later.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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Just some more pictures I just snapped.. Maybe you guys see something I don't.
The red arrow, is that thing sticking out normal? Anyone want to crawl under their caR to see for me?
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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Thats a crack in the case. Something got loose inside and the large final drive gear on the diff smashed it into the case. I have seen this happen before.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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Are you reffering to the spot at which the red arrow points at?

I did drive it while it was leaking and worked and sounded fine, Before I knew o the leak. You sure about the broke part in there?

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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I think he is talking about this picture. That looks like a crack to me.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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well thats def a crack and different from what I could see in the first set of pics. tough to say what caused it without opening it up. if something came loose in there youll find it.

you know what needs to be done, either cheap ghetto fix on the outside, remove the trans and fix from the inside, or new case. you would also try some silicone sealant but Im not sure if the tranny fluid will break it down making it leak again. id be more worried about finding out why that happened and open the case to make sure you find out. case is the least of the problem at this point IMO.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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The crack happened from the inside out. I'll put money down that something is floating around in there. Usually a broken piece of differential housing but the itr diff is very strong....probably something else not major enough to notice yet.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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maybe try using Honda-bond instead of J-B weld. You'll be surprised how strong that
stuff is
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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Anyone want to crawl under their caR to see if they have the same raised area that is pointed to by the red arrow?


for first person who post a picture of the same area of their trans
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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sorry rob....no camera but I just went and looked my my tranny(tranny is in basment) and its smooth. the final drive is right be hind that...maybe you had a final drive bolt come out and smack the inside of the case..?
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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no beer for you!

thanks for checking!

this makes me sad... Pretty much the worst possible timing for this to happen

Hey Len, got a spare case in the dealer for me ? Anyone???
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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Here is someone selling a 94 GSR tranny case. That might be able to get you running for the expo.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2240376
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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get what ever tranny...and then fix this one when your not in a bind for time i already told j00 that foo
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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I'd rather do it right, So I sent gearspeedinc an email about cases...

Hey Len, if you are looking please call me when you see this with the price of a new case, pretty please

Anyone have a case or CHEAP trans I could buy?
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