Bone stock B18C5 with gsr header and stock si hb pipings.

AEM shot ram intake, hytech replica header with test pipe and custom pipings will be installed upcomming Friday.

Currently have a chipped gsr ecu.

With those basic mods, should i have the car street tune? If so, what ECU is recommended?


TIA

 

First of all you need to understand that the OEM ecu is conservatively tuned which means it is not tuned for gear ripping performance

so what im saying is even with a complete OEM setup there is power to be found tuning

SO with the mod you have the rest is a no brainer!

 

Tune it you will see gains and a smoother graph from your base line......stay away from street tunes if possible

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboZChatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Tune it you will see gains and a smoother graph from your base line......stay away from street tunes if possible</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats the "dumbest thing" i've read on this site in the past 3 weeks..
Street tunes allow for a safe setup of AFR and other minor things..
Street tunes should be done before going to dyno, if time allots and what not..
You street tune to smooth the AFR, and get the nicks and nacks out the way before u hit the dyno.. At the dyno you can tune the gears, and ign more easily then trying to smooth the AFR for 2 hours or however long..
Street tune also servers a purpose for the poor folk who can't spend 400+ an hour on dyno time tuning.. I've done a measureable amount of street tunes in the past year.. who are still running street tunes..and haven't dynoed yet..
please.. dont post incorrect stuff like this..

 

Type r did I say street tunes will break your car never do one no I said stay away if possible......now what I ment was the OP seemed as if he was givin the option is a street tune good enough and I don't care what you say no it is not....if your concerned only with gettin you afr close then go ahead but I like to see what is happening power wise as changes are made.....although your butt dyno is prob pimp
And you also say that street tunes are for the poor folk but since when does quality not cost money? So stick to your street tunes my advice is dyno tune if possible you can't even compare the 2

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboZChatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">......stay away from street tunes if possible</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

We fix street "tunes" on a regular basis.
Any laptop jockey can manipulate the numbers, that does not mean that they are doing it correctly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We fix street "tunes" on a regular basis.
Any laptop jockey can manipulate the numbers, that does not mean that they are doing it correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thank you

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We fix street "tunes" on a regular basis.
Any laptop jockey can manipulate the numbers, that does not mean that they are doing it correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

When you have to fix a street tune, On average (forget about the laptop jockey tuning with no equipment), how long does that take compared to starting from scratch?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We fix street "tunes" on a regular basis.
Any laptop jockey can manipulate the numbers, that does not mean that they are doing it correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Maybe when people who can't tell their own *** from a hole in the ground..
Minimal work is done on the dyno to correct mine or a few of the people's tunes that tune with me..
I rarely tune on dynos.. so i leave it to the guys who have had years more experince then me..but they spend maybe 20mins on my street tunes.. mostly to just fool with the ignition..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboZChatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Type r did I say street tunes will break your car never do one no I said stay away if possible......now what I ment was the OP seemed as if he was givin the option is a street tune good enough and I don't care what you say no it is not....if your concerned only with gettin you afr close then go ahead but I like to see what is happening power wise as changes are made.....although your butt dyno is prob pimp
And you also say that street tunes are for the poor folk but since when does quality not cost money? So stick to your street tunes my advice is dyno tune if possible you can't even compare the 2
</TD></TR></TABLE>
You obviously have no idea what you said in your previous post..I suggest you step back, take a gander, and understand how i took your post..
If your AFR is jumping from 14.2's to 11.8's and u clean it up and make it go 12.9~13.3 instead of huge jump i assure you, your making power and making good power at that..I dont judge **** on butt dynos.. i have my logs, and wideband to see what the car is doing..I dont care too much for dynos unless my car is completely ready for it.. its useless as **** to go dyno tune, then 3 months later change my setup completely.. i'll spend 1200+ ? No thx.. Quality doesn't cost money when you know what your doing..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GhostAccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

When you have to fix a street tune, On average (forget about the laptop jockey tuning with no equipment), how long does that take compared to starting from scratch?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i assure you it cuts the time in half if not more.. you already have a base... your cleaning up.. and i assure you the street tunes you fix are more then likely kids using AFR meters, and not a true wideband.. and using they're own o2 sensor and dont know what the **** is going on..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You obviously have no idea what you said in your previous post..I suggest you step back, take a gander, and understand how i took your post..
If your AFR is jumping from 14.2's to 11.8's and u clean it up and make it go 12.9~13.3 instead of huge jump i assure you, your making power and making good power at that..I dont judge **** on butt dynos.. i have my logs, and wideband to see what the car is doing..I dont care too much for dynos unless my car is completely ready for it.. its useless as **** to go dyno tune, then 3 months later change my setup completely.. i'll spend 1200+ ? No thx.. Quality doesn't cost money when you know what your doing..</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am not going to go back and forth with you so after this reply im done...no were did I say that you should never street tune I said stay away from them if possible BUT what he asked was should he street tune and why would I say yes when having it done on a dyno is more productive and safe... I really don't care what you say....the only reason your fighting tooth and nail for the street tune love is because (and you said it yourself in other words) you don't deal with the dyno....so good luck to you and the cars you tune on the street but to the Original Poster do yourself a favor and tune on a dyno

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboZChatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I am not going to go back and forth with you so after this reply im done...no were did I say that you should never street tune I said stay away from them if possible BUT what he asked was should he street tune and why would I say yes when having it done on a dyno is more productive and safe... I really don't care what you say....the only reason your fighting tooth and nail for the street tune love is because (and you said it yourself in other words) you don't deal with the dyno....so good luck to you and the cars you tune on the street but to the Original Poster do yourself a favor and tune on a dyno</TD></TR></TABLE>
You obviously dont do any of your own work..

 

street tune for part throttle reliability and gas mileage
dyno tune for full throttle

dyno tune if you wanna go faster.

If you cant tune a stock car in an hour on the dyno starting from scratch then you dont need to be tuning, just my opinion of course.

 

ill have to throw my 2 cents in here just FFS...

i can tune the whole AF'r in a dyno in about 2 - 3 passes completely from scratch on almost any AM setup. Not the hardest thing to do... i dont like to street tune WOT on a car that has a fully built engine, why? cause i have seen cars that run at 18 WOT i have seen other run at 22 others at 25 tappering to 23, some other up to 27 tappering to 25.5, thats almost impossible to guess on a street tune and leaving all the cars at a set IGN timing will be very frustrating if the engine can use maybe 5 - 6 more degrees or WORSE CASE SCENARIO it wants 5 or 6 the less. I street tune for part throttle and stop to stop if possible, then go to dyno and tune WOT, then a track tune to check afr's, etc at the track.

Maybe im **** bout my work, but people pay hard earned cash for the service. I just try to be up to par with what i ask as my fee and to get the most out of the car as a whole.