Just something that i noticed. We r the only forum where when someone asks a question and it has already been covered, we bash them and the link is locked. If you look at all the other forums on here, they really dont do that. I think if someone has a question that has already been covered we should just answer it and not lock it. All the other forums hardly have any locks on their links we have like 4-7 on each page. Anyone else agree with me or am i just over reacting bc i feel like we r becoming A##holes like everyone on vwvortex. If u agree just say something on it. And Matt if u can leave this up as a comment page that would be awsome. Thanks in advance

 

I don't think there's really any bashing.

They're closed to make a point to look into previously established threads that have answered the question already.

 

ok i agree with the dumb answers but searching can only do so much and maybe there was a question someone had that there is a new answer to?

 

i think it could come across as really rude and mean; however, it does keep our forum clean and easy to look through. i would rather someone spend a little more time searching for their question before they post if that means i will not trip over the exact same question twenty topics in a row.

 

some questions require furthur elaboration for some people. this forum tends to forget that. after all thats what the forum is for right? or am i completely off base?

 

well someone time either matt or someone posts a link to the answered question. And i would consider this one of the nicest forums on h-t. Some are way bad at bashing. My .02

 

Here's my OPINION (lol)

If the person has less than 50 posts, CLEARLY has not searched, and is giving off the vibe that they are just popping into a forum for a quick answer, I think those threads should be locked.

People like that are not looking to become part of the forum community, don't search for what they are looking for (spoon to mouth), and want a quick answer with no effort.

HOWEVER,

I can honestly say that the EM2 forum is quite unlike any other forum I have been on. Not only on Honda-Tech, but on the internet, period.

There seems to be a collective agreement that YES we are here to learn about the technical aspects of our automobiles, but ALSO are looking for other people's opinions, since after all we are all human.

In my OPINION, I think that the EM2 forum is damn strict.

Now, you guys can thank me for agreeing with the OP and stating the obvious, we see it every day. Since this thread was an opinion thread, and I just posted my opinion, it's only a matter of time before big boss man comes along and closes the thread.

Because we aren't allowed to share our opinions. LoL

Nothing against anybody personally, but some need to chill the hell out. Everybody's got an opinion, whether you like it or not, EVEN YOU. Not every opinion thread ends in bashing and flaming.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by portaman03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's my OPINION (lol)

If the person has less than 50 posts, CLEARLY has not searched, and is giving off the vibe that they are just popping into a forum for a quick answer, I think those threads should be locked.

People like that are not looking to become part of the forum community, don't search for what they are looking for (spoon to mouth), and want a quick answer with no effort.

HOWEVER,

I can honestly say that the EM2 forum is quite unlike any other forum I have been on. Not only on Honda-Tech, but on the internet, period.

There seems to be a collective agreement that YES we are here to learn about the technical aspects of our automobiles, but ALSO are looking for other people's opinions, since after all we are all human.

In my OPINION, I think that the EM2 forum is damn strict.

Now, you guys can thank me for agreeing with the OP and stating the obvious, we see it every day. Since this thread was an opinion thread, and I just posted my opinion, it's only a matter of time before big boss man comes along and closes the thread.

Because we aren't allowed to share our opinions. LoL

Nothing against anybody personally, but some need to chill the hell out. Everybody's got an opinion, whether you like it or not, EVEN YOU. Not every opinion thread ends in bashing and flaming.
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I can see your point of view, bud, I truly can. But, you obviously don't see mine. I could just as easily convey my argument with your point of view, and prove my point. Opinions spur argument more commonly than anything. And, although I share feelings towards allowing opinions in some aspects of life, this isn't one of them. I strongly believe that when someone's personal choice is in question, outside people's opinions shouldn't matter and thus, not even exist. It's the whole premise for being "creative". People who constantly take other's opinions, end up having no creativity of their own. Thus, they become a follower of trends, and eventually don't trust their own judgement. Gullibility, my friend, is just stupid.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Griff911 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just something that i noticed. We r the only forum where when someone asks a question and it has already been covered, we bash them and the link is locked. If you look at all the other forums on here, they really dont do that. I think if someone has a question that has already been covered we should just answer it and not lock it. All the other forums hardly have any locks on their links we have like 4-7 on each page. Anyone else agree with me or am i just over reacting bc i feel like we r becoming A##holes like everyone on vwvortex. If u agree just say something on it. And Matt if u can leave this up as a comment page that would be awsome. Thanks in advance</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bud, I can understand your point of view. There's a reason why we have a reporting system here, but some people feel the need to voice their anger before posting "IBTL". If people would just click the "" and leave the thread, life would be simpler.

Either way, I think this topic is a good way to convey how the rules were brought into place, so I'll leave it up. (This one's for you portaman03. )

 

i respond to alot of the stupid repeated questions on this forum and 9/10 times i post a link where they answer can be found. rarely does a thread get locked without anyone replying and the majority of the time matt will post an explanation. I personally like how strict H-T is. if you want a more relaxed forum hit up 7thgenhonda.com. i spend a bit of time over there just chatting but i find the technical information pretty much worthless. IMO the reason we have different forums online is so each can have its own unique personality. one person may like a particular forum while someone else may hate it. so if you dont the aura of H-T then maybe one of the other sites is more fitting to your tastes.

 

you guys do realize that you can post in an old thread right???? So if you have a question that requires further elaboration you can ask the elaboration in the thread that previously exists. (of course this would require.... ACTUAL use of the search button )
Its good that its run tight, a lot of the questions that are repeatedly asked are the dumb ones, "hey I just got my car which filter on a stick adds .000001 more HP than the others?" And there's simply no need for it. This isnt special ed, not everyone needs individual attention or spoon feeding. You want to work on the car, there's a little bit of homework and self sufficiency required... otherwise it'd be at the mechanic. Honestly the overwhelming majority of what gets asked on ANY forum can be found by shooting the same thing through google. If you're on here more than a month, the same 5-10 questions come up over and over again.... filter on a stick, fart cans, voiding the warranty, the best turbo, etc.... and when half the forum knows the answer without lifting a finger, it deserves to be locked.

Matt, I think you do pretty good job keeping the garbage to a minimum

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by portaman03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's my OPINION (lol)

If the person has less than 50 posts, CLEARLY has not searched, and is giving off the vibe that they are just popping into a forum for a quick answer, I think those threads should be locked.

People like that are not looking to become part of the forum community, don't search for what they are looking for (spoon to mouth), and want a quick answer with no effort.
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Wow, thats probably the dumbest thing i've ever heard. So there are hundreds of forums online. Forums contain some of THE MOST VITAL information that people are looking for. For someone looking to swap an A2 head onto an A1 block where do you think someone would most likely get an answer from? A forum obviously. And a detailed one at that. Sure you can get information elsewhere, but forums answer alot more FAQs that people have IMO.

And you think by locking someones thread who has less than 50 posts and that was just looking for a quick answer, that person is going to join the forum community? Give me a break, that gives them more of a reason to make this a quick stop than anything else.

I agree on the locking of the threads with basic questions that have already been answered but we shouldnt lock a thread on the stupid assumption that the person was just popping in for a quick answer.

Hey I just popped in on HT for a quick answer..and im an community member now as well, because I was never rejected from my stupid questions because I had less than 50 posts. No1 assumed I was just passing by, they just noticed I had a previously answered question on my hands, and pointed me in the right direction. Matt does do a pretty decent job at filtering these threads. He's not a dick and just locks it.. he explains, and points EVERYONE in the right direction.

One suggestion I have, is that no1 reads the FORUM GUIDELINES. Is there anyway to make that more noticeable? Bold.. red? Something that catches the eye.. because alot of people scroll right down past that to tell you the truth. Search at the top is already in red and bold but.. I duno. That forum guidelines is good, just needs to be seen more.

Also I think we should be able to keep opinion threads.. Creates more conversation. How would this look, what do you think about this,.. those are ok IMO.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DsevenEm2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Matt does do a pretty decent job at filtering these threads. He's not a dick and just locks it.. he explains, and points EVERYONE in the right direction.

One suggestion I have, is that no1 reads the FORUM GUIDELINES. Is there anyway to make that more noticeable? Bold.. red? Something that catches the eye.. because alot of people scroll right down past that to tell you the truth. Search at the top is already in red and bold but.. I duno. That forum guidelines is good, just needs to be seen more.

Also I think we should be able to keep opinion threads.. Creates more conversation. How would this look, what do you think about this,.. those are ok IMO.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I pretty much agree with this. Matt does a damn good job in my opinion and he's clearly dedicated to keeping the forum from getting cluttered with the same old questions and topics. It stays clean and fresh in here and it's easier to navigate than a lot of the more popular sub-forums that often look a mess. As said a couple of times here, before a locking, an explanation and/or relevant link is always provided by him or has already been given by some other member.

I also agree with Dseven's view about the guidelines, they need to be more obvious so that when a member who isn't too familiar with the protocaol here comes in looking for an answer, the first thing s/he see's is in fact the guidelines.

As for the opinion threads, my honest view is that is is perhaps a little strict in this regard. Yes, the very basic opinion questions are stupid and should be locked straight away. But sometimes i do think we miss out on a bit of intelligent opinion sharing, often another eye or viewpoint can help an OP get a different perspective.

But i think it's damn near spot on in here - if a little slow moving, but that's nobody's fault here - and overall it's moderated very well.

 

personaly i like how things are run. i feel matt does a good job and doesnt allow multiple threads on the same topic. if i need to find something it is very easy to find it because everything is clean, there i not a lot of garbo and threads on the same topics

 

it all depends, see sometimes the previous thread doesn't explain it as in depth as some people would like or they just don't type in the correct word. I don't think anyone should be harsh but I also don't think anyone should be stupid and not able to atleast look it up first. So I would say it's 50/50 for me.

 

here's my observation lol.

hardly any chats on ht in this forum. it's more like answer the question and shut up. where's all the em2 es1 and es2 ridas in here who like to "talk"?

i've seen some other threads in other sections, pretty cool my opinion, where people just rant about anything! we have one but no one chats on here. o_O.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oddmut &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here's my observation lol.

hardly any chats on ht in this forum. it's more like answer the question and shut up. </TD></TR></TABLE>

very much agreed.. i feel having opinionated threads open for discussion will generate this much needed "chat"... what else are we supposed to talk about. alot of the other forums are a "forum community" like previously stated.. were basically wikipedia with a bunch of members who drive hondas..

 

um why cant we all just and and

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ballinboosi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it all depends, see sometimes the previous thread doesn't explain it as in depth as some people would like or they just don't type in the correct word. I don't think anyone should be harsh but I also don't think anyone should be stupid and not able to atleast look it up first. So I would say it's 50/50 for me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

In most cases, if there is a thread about a topic you're curious about, the thread is still unlocked and can be posted on. It's perfectly fine to bump a thread if it's the only topic containing information towards what you're looking for, especially if it's not as in-depth or understandable as you would prefer. Just bump the dead topic up, if it's needing an information update.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oddmut &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here's my observation lol.

hardly any chats on ht in this forum. it's more like answer the question and shut up. where's all the em2 es1 and es2 ridas in here who like to "talk"?

i've seen some other threads in other sections, pretty cool my opinion, where people just rant about anything! we have one but no one chats on here. o_O.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DsevenEm2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">very much agreed.. i feel having opinionated threads open for discussion will generate this much needed "chat"... what else are we supposed to talk about. alot of the other forums are a "forum community" like previously stated.. were basically wikipedia with a bunch of members who drive hondas.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't know how I could make it any easier for you two. I already made a thread for conversation, it's not like it's all that hard to converse there.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2104439

You have to keep in mind that this is a Technical board. If you want common conversation, that's what <u>General Discussion and Debate</u> is for. If you want opinions on looks, go to <u>Appearance & Cosmetic</u>. I mean, the forum is quite well laid out.


PS. Thanks to all that gave me compliments. It's truly appreciated. It's nice to know that the efforts I make are actually appreciated sometimes.

 

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I can see your point of view, bud, I truly can. But, you obviously don't see mine. I could just as easily convey my argument with your point of view, and prove my point. Opinions spur argument more commonly than anything. And, although I share feelings towards allowing opinions in some aspects of life, this isn't one of them. I strongly believe that when someone's personal choice is in question, outside people's opinions shouldn't matter and thus, not even exist. It's the whole premise for being "creative". People who constantly take other's opinions, end up having no creativity of their own. Thus, they become a follower of trends, and eventually don't trust their own judgement. Gullibility, my friend, is just stupid.


Bud, I can understand your point of view. There's a reason why we have a reporting system here, but some people feel the need to voice their anger before posting "IBTL". If people would just click the "" and leave the thread, life would be simpler.

Either way, I think this topic is a good way to convey how the rules were brought into place, so I'll leave it up. (This one's for you portaman03. )</TD></TR></TABLE>

I see now how it works and that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying. and i wasnt trying to bash Matt at all for anyone who thinks i was.

 

I've noticed this before.
But most all the comon problems have been covered multiple times.
Not sure why the threads get locked though.
Sometimes it comes off looking like the mod is a jerk, but in the end he is just doing his duty

 

lol. my observation was suppose to be silly.

i know we got chat threads but no one chats there. hehe nothing big. nothing of your power but it's chilax. right now i just drop in about everyday see how it is pm ppl and sign off.