Show me some pics. I need to decide what size I want to get. I'm guessing 215/45. I'm downsizing form 18's to some lightweight Kosei 17's. What do 225/45's fit like? Anyone know? Guess i'll go to Car Domain and browse around. Getting tires this weekend. Got my eyes set on Potenza RE-01 R. I have RT-615's on my 18's right now and i'm really not that impressed. Not as a daily driven tire.


Modified by JGAccorn at 2:05 PM 2/27/2008

 

Might help is you describe the car you have.

 

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Hey, he said it's a '94-97! So that's all we need to know, right? Could be a '94-97 Chevy Suburban, or a '94-97 Geo Metro. All '94-97 cars take the same size tires, right?

 

my guess is accord

 

I'm sticking with the Suburban.

 

17" Kosei would be SICK on a burb!!! Throw some 40 series and a 6" lift. Be dragging diff pumpkins on speedbumps. Shear u-joints off if I were to hit a pothole wrong. HA!

This post was originally in the accord forum but got moved here. My bad.

It's a 96 Accord. Sittin on a GC / Koni combo. 225/40-18's right now. Going to 17 x 7". 15 pounders. I'm thinking 225/45. Had a set of NT-01 that size on my FC3S RX7 and liked the look on the 17's. Stuck like glue as well. I just want some ideas before I go plop $$ down on a size that either won't work or looks too puney. Cause I can't just return them after they're mounted up. I don't like 205's or 215's. Especially 40's. Ehh, i'lll keep an eye out on other boards and Car Domain. Something's gotta pop up. If not I guess i'm just gonna order the 225/45 and cross my fingers.

 

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Which kind? Sedan, Coupe, or Wagon? EX, LX, or DX? 4 cylinder or V6? They used different tire sizes on different versions - everything from 185/70-14 on the DX to 205/60-15 on the EX V6. And those sizes have different outer diameters, which means the 17" sizes would be different, too.

Are you using it for the track and/or autocross, or just for the street?

If it's just for the street, I would recommend 205/45-17 if your car uses the smaller tire size, 215/45-17 for the larger one. You're really running a big chance of rubbing if you go to 225. And, of course, they will make your car accelerate slower...

 

It's a EX 4 cyl coupe. It's going to be a street / time trial driven car. Nothing serious competition. Yeah, I figured it would scrub. I don't care about the front, sheetmetal can be modified. My pinch welds up near the strut towers are already mini-tubbed and the areas in front and rear of the towers are clearanced. The rear knuckle is what i'm worried about.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JGAccorn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's a EX 4 cyl coupe. It's going to be a street / time trial driven car. Nothing serious competition. Yeah, I figured it would scrub. I don't care about the front, sheetmetal can be modified. My pinch welds up near the strut towers are already mini-tubbed and the areas in front and rear of the towers are clearanced. The rear knuckle is what i'm worried about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sounds like you know all the pros and cons and are looking for someone who's actually tried it on the same car as you. Hope someone can chime in to help.

BTW, I'm not sure what you didn't like about the RT-615, but the RE-01R is a similar type of tire. When you say you're looking for a "daily driven tire", if that means you're looking for one that lasts longer and/or does better in rain (the biggest downsides of the RT-615), the RE-01R isn't the one I'd pick either...

 

Yeah this car used to have air ride on it so alot of front mods were done so It would lay out. Rear has been cut too but just up against the body where the inner fender well connected. It got cut and raised about 3 inches. It is actually really good cause it is not any heavier and ALOT stronger than factory. It is all 1x1 box tube 1/8" wall.

About the tires. Yeah I don't care about how long they last. The Grassroots Motorsports test showed them superior over the 615's in wet and dry. Although the wet traction was not the best, it was alot better. On the dry portion they were pretty much the same as the 615 but the average lap times were alot more consistent. They stated that the RE's were more consistent as heat went up. 615's got worse as heat went up. I really trust their word on products. I know everyone is different but I have never been steered wrong listening to them.

What tires are comparable to the RE's and 615's? I actually had very good, daily driven good, luck with the BfG G-Force sport. I used to love those tires. And cheap too. They were so-so on the track and mountains. Not bad but not best. I guess they are always an option as well. I went from them to the 615's.

 

Allright, baby got some new shoes. RE-01R 215/45-17. Got em $653 out the door. Not bad at all. They road force balanced them and all. I'm happy with the look. I guess i'll go rip Dragon's Tail this coming weekend and see how good they stick. Even if I don't like them I still have my 18's with the 615's on them in the garage.

On the plus side, wheel / tire weight went down 9.2 pounds each. And the front dosen't scrub when i'm turning into a parking space anymore. Not that I cared but it's worth speaking of I guess.

 

Looks like you're all set. And yes, everything you say about the RE-01R is true, relative to the RT-615; the other big difference is cost, which I'm sure you're aware of. Good luck.

Just to answer the questions you posted (in case you or others are still interested)...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JGAccorn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What tires are comparable to the RE's and 615's? I actually had very good, daily driven good, luck with the BfG G-Force sport. I used to love those tires. And cheap too. They were so-so on the track and mountains. Not bad but not best. I guess they are always an option as well. I went from them to the 615's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There are other tires in this category of "supersticky specialty tires". Ones that have been around a while aren't as sticky as the RT-615, but there are some new models hitting the market now. The Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 is now available and has performance as good as the RE-01R, at a price similar to the RT-615. The Toyo R1R is a new tire just hitting the market now, and appears to be very good, but it's a bit too early to make comparisons yet. The Kumho Ecsta XS should be hitting the market very soon.

The BFG g-Force Sport is a "budget performance tire" similar in price to (and not quite as good as) the Kumho SPT, Yokohama ES100 and S.drive, Fuzion ZRi, etc. It's designed for "bang for the buck" with decent performance at an inexpensive price. Unlike the supersticky tires, these tires last a lot longer and do better in rain.

If you're looking for a tire that gives you dry performance almost as good as the supersticky tires, but with outstanding wet performance and excellent treadlife, I recommend the Goodyear F1 GS-D3. It's more expensive than the budget performance tires, but the performance is much better in every way.

 

Yeah, I would really recommend the G-force to anyone looking for a good entry level tire. I was very happy with them. On the track, so-so but street they rocked. I had them for nearly 2 1/2 years on a bagged accord. 225/40-18. Of course it was bagged they stiill got abused fairly often. Air ride cars still rail pretty darn good. They are a very decent tire for the money.

The new s-drive are very good tire as well. There are tons of reviews that praise them as a replacement for the G-force, ZRi, ES 100 etc...

Well, I guess i'll find out just how good the RE-01R is this week and next weekend. It is supposed to rain tuesday and i'll go to the mountains sunday morning. We'll see.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JGAccorn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, I would really recommend the G-force to anyone looking for a good entry level tire. I was very happy with them. On the track, so-so but street they rocked. I had them for nearly 2 1/2 years on a bagged accord. 225/40-18. Of course it was bagged they stiill got abused fairly often. Air ride cars still rail pretty darn good. They are a very decent tire for the money.

The new s-drive are very good tire as well. There are tons of reviews that praise them as a replacement for the G-force, ZRi, ES 100 etc...</TD></TR></TABLE>

The SPT and ZRi both offer better performance than the BFG for the same money. They also offer similar performance to the S.drive for less money. That's why I don't recommend the BFG g-force Sport or the Yokohama S.drive.

 

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Hey, he said it's a '94-97! So that's all we need to know, right? Could be a '94-97 Chevy Suburban, or a '94-97 Geo Metro. All '94-97 cars take the same size tires, right?
</TD></TR></TABLE> ...ken got me rolling ROFL

 

Well I know they are still brand new but the rain isin't a problem at all. I ripped 15 miles up the interstate going anywhere from 55 up to 70 with no issues what so ever. Pretty steady hard rain. Of course my 615's were 225 and these are 215. They still handle the rain i'd say 60% better. I am possibly noticeing -spelling- the difference in reduced section width more than anyhing. I am pleased so far, we'll see what the weekend brings........