ITs time to replace rotors and pads...alreadyg brembo rotors....need to know which pads are worth getting...

It'll be mostly regular street driving ... like 80% street and 20% track...any idea guys? thx.

 

I like the Hawk HP+. They DO dust and the DO squeal. Good for your amount of track. If track = auto-x then HPS is better.

 

I'm installing Endless CC-X pads tomorrow and will give a review...

 

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! music to my ears
but for 80% street and 20% track...try the Endless Na-Y or Project Mu Bestop pads...


[Modified by BlueR, 9:55 PM 7/5/2002]

 

Hawk HP+
Endless NA-Y
Endless NA-M

 

I liked the CC-X. Good bite, not much fade. And they met my needs for a street/track pad, because, unlike track-only pads, they don't squeal and dust a lot and they don't need to heat up to be effective. However, they didn't last nearly as long as my favorites, the RM Racing street/track pads for the stock size NSX front, which also fit the ITR front.

Here is how long each of my first three sets of front brake pads lasted on my ITR:

Stock: 3809 total miles including 223 miles on track
CC-X: 2850 total miles including 279 miles on track
RM: 4589 total miles including 543 miles on track

FWIW, I just replaced my original (stock) rear pads after 12348 total miles including 1317 miles on track.



[Modified by nsxtcjr, 9:06 PM 7/5/2002]

 

a good questoion is also what does each set of pads cost . . .

I pay $48 for Hawk HP+ and $39 for Hawk HPS front pads and can't find anything else that affordable that is even close.

edit: plus shipping


[Modified by Asahi, 9:09 PM 7/5/2002]

 

how much for a set of the RM racing fronts?

 

$159. I inserted a link in my previous post...



[Modified by nsxtcjr, 9:13 PM 7/5/2002]

 

thanx...its getting late didn't even see the link...solly

 

Where?

 

axis ultimates...$110 for all 4! from yoshi...

 

Just want to ask a question about Temp range for brake pad......say for Endless CC-X, I believe their temp. range is around 100' C ~ 700 'C
My (1) question is how hard(or easy) for the brake to heat up to 100'C ?
(2) Is it ture that you will get "no brake" if the pad is under 100'C ?
(3) Because of the temp. range so CC-X need to heat up to work, right ?

I'm a little confuse about the temp. range, I know the higher is better (in most case) but just not sure how to pick a good one when looking at the minmum temp. which need for the pad to start working.

 

No, not based on my experience. I found that the CC-X brakes worked just fine, even when the car was stone cold. This was different from my experience with a track pad (Porterfield R4, to be specific), where the brakes weren't very effective for the first couple of stops when you first started driving, because they hadn't had a chance to heat up.

100 degrees C (212 F) isn't all that hot, and is easily reached in a single stop. I think real track-only pads need to get a lot hotter than that before they're effective. For example, the Endless MA-11 is rated for 300-830 degrees C, so they need to get pretty darn hot (300 C = 572 F) before they're effective.



[Modified by nsxtcjr, 12:45 AM 7/6/2002]

 

thanks Ken

 

yeah 100C is not all that hot for a track pad

Jody- who want carbon fiber but doea not have 4000 for rotors 2000 for calipers and god knows how much for pads

 

You can't beat thye HP+ pads in value; they are great for the track, but off track they squeal like a college freshman girl at a frat. party.

I like them a lot though for the track, little fade if any. Plus they are cheap.

I am back to stock pads for the street which don't bite nearly as well. I am currently wanting to find a set of pads for the street; might try to convince Hawk to send me a free set of HPS's if possible.

Aren't the CCX pads pretty expensive?

 

Yup - even more than the RM Racing pads.

FWIW, I bought my Endless CC-X pads from God (Dan).

 

Just want to give my opinion about the Porterfield R4 cause I've been running them both on the street and the track since last summer. They do squeal and do dust. But they are awesome. With regards to using them in extremely cold weather, I haven't had a problem with them. And I live in Canada too!

Remember no matter how good your pads are, you've gotta match it with sticky tires in order to prevent your ABS from kicking in all the time. Therefore, the pads with the best stopping power is not always the best pads for you. It's all about the balance.

 

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Isn't this how Carbotech Started?

From Hawk to Carbotech?

 

i have heard small amounts of good info about the axxis pads

how are they for street and auto x

rotor friendly?
noise?
dust?

 

Actually, Carbotech started by reselling Hawk. Hawk dropped Carbotech as a supplier amid issues of Carbotech repainting Hawk products and selling them as their own, etc.

I brought the Axxis Ultimate into the Carbotech product line-up before I left a little over a month ago.

The Axxis Ultimate is an excellent street, auto-x, and drag pad...and light track use for cars under 2800lb.

-Andie

 

Has anyone tried Carbotech's line of "street pads"? I can't remember the name, but last time I called the guy mentioned a line of pads that were below the Panthers, and are an aggressive street pad.

 

Carbotech street pads were called the SuperStreet-F. It was discontinued before I left, as Hawk supplied the compound to Carbotech and discontinued relations with Carbotech a while back.

The SuperStreet-F was the Hawk HPS compound that was heat-treated up to 450-500F; it was not a cryogenically treated compound as some people thought.

-Andie