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Keep the SOHC ZC or go B16A2?

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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 11:09 AM
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Default Keep the SOHC ZC or go B16A2?

what do you guys think 900 on a B16A2 or on a turbo for my ZC Vtec which i spent a little time on and is already set up for a turbo to go in?

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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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turbo the zc. unless you want to lets say "give me" the zc, then go b16a2 lol. but im a fan of sohc.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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oh god. This will turn into another turbo D vs. NA B vs. Turbo B vs. H22 argument.

It's gonna be a bloodbath.

I will say this: The BEST possible mod for a D series is a B series swap.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B serious &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh god. This will turn into another turbo D vs. NA B vs. Turbo B vs. H22 argument.

It's gonna be a bloodbath.

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lol it always is.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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Theres no point to spend the same amount to swap a B16 (which is my least favorite B series other than the B20) when you could have a turbo D instead. Rather than making 220-240whp with the D, you'd rather have 145whp with the B16? To me, that just doesn't make sense.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Theres no point to spend the same amount to swap a B16 (which is my least favorite B series other than the B20) when you could have a turbo D instead. Rather than making 220-240whp with the D, you'd rather have 145whp with the B16? To me, that just doesn't make sense. </TD></TR></TABLE>

A stock B16A would be more reliable than the boosted D. The 220whp version of a D series may be pseudo reliable....but not OEM reliable.

If you're drag racing as your only form of motorsports, the turbo D would be great.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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b16a sucks ***, not enough torque. if ur seriously thinking about swapping a b-series, make it worth it, go type r or gsr.
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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thanks for the input i dont want this to be a bashing bloodbath though guys please keep it clean. just what you guys have said have the little mouse wheel crankin away with ideas, ill let the poll go for a week
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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more votes and input anyone?
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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A d-series motor is also extremely cheap to replace. A b-series motor -- not so much.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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Id boost the D. If you already built it for boost then boost it. Thats like renovating a car and leaving the seats out. Finish it off with that turbo. The hp will be way more than the n/a B16. The B16 has very low torque too, and thats no fun.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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I vote turbo the D

That's what I'm doing. Also if you haven't make sure to check out turbod16.com they have tons of info there.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 10:06 PM
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i say turbo the d cuz its alot more fun and faster but will cost alot of maintinece....but hey take the good with the bad rite....i was thinking of going allmotor dseries but probaly too expensive ....
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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well thnx guys and thanx for the link civicjoe
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Default Re: Keep the SOHC ZC or go B16A2? (duefuss)

I beat a boosted eg hatch in my eg coupe with a slightly modified swapped b16a2 if that helps u...
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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yeah im sure you did but the set up i have now this puppy pulls hard and anything stock or slightly modified DOHC and SOHC iv won by 2 and 3 car lengths i think im staying SOHC.....its F-ing hilarious to see the faces when i pop the hood and they see they got spanked by a SOHC
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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I agree -- I've went against Mitusbishi 3000GT's, civic hatchs with b16s in them, a boosted eg coupe @ 7psi, an accord with a JDM h22 swap with the I/H/E bolt-ons, and a dodge srt-4.. Only car I lost to is the dodge srt-4 and it wasn't by much.. He was just slowly creeping by me.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ke98248 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree -- I've went against Mitusbishi 3000GT's, civic hatchs with b16s in them, a boosted eg coupe @ 7psi, an accord with a JDM h22 swap with the I/H/E bolt-ons, and a dodge srt-4.. Only car I lost to is the dodge srt-4 and it wasn't by much.. He was just slowly creeping by me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

3000GT's are SLUGS, a EJ, not an EG Coupe and you didn't say what motor it had, Accords are fat pigs, and SRT-4's are nasty with very little mods *Ala you lost*

And a key point in your statement is that you left out WHAT ALL IS DONE TO YOUR D16 aside from its turbo assuming that is what you drive *Let alone what kind of D16 it is*
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dasfinc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

3000GT's are SLUGS, a EJ, not an EG Coupe and you didn't say what motor it had, Accords are fat pigs, and SRT-4's are nasty with very little mods *Ala you lost*

And a key point in your statement is that you left out WHAT ALL IS DONE TO YOUR D16 aside from its turbo assuming that is what you drive *Let alone what kind of D16 it is*</TD></TR></TABLE>
i dont think it matters alls that matters is that those cars got spanked by the "supposed"underdog SOHC aside from the SRT 4
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by duefuss &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah im sure you did but the set up i have now this puppy pulls hard and anything stock or slightly modified DOHC and SOHC iv won by 2 and 3 car lengths i think im staying SOHC.....its F-ing hilarious to see the faces when i pop the hood and they see they got spanked by a SOHC</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow....I didnt know they made EG COUPES. jk.
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJcivicJDM7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

wow....I didnt know they made EG COUPES. jk. </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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Turbo D.

I was debating with the same thing then I finally just said "F it. I'm going to college in the fall and don't feel like sinking all my time and money in a B16 swap. Turbo what I have for cheaper and make more power. End of story!"

I think you should do the same
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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My Turbo D16Z6 beat my friends 89 hatch with B16 and S2 S2 cams, but it blew up cause D16 are beat stock and my tune was ***, when you say built for boost what do you mean.


Also my friend was running a Turbo b16 in his rex with 500 whp daily no problems.

Now i have an LS with GSR trans and that is a comfy setup, t-minus 6 months till boost on that
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by duefuss &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i dont think it matters alls that matters is that those cars got spanked by the "supposed"underdog SOHC aside from the SRT 4</TD></TR></TABLE>

you never made mention of 'spanking' any of them, you said you 'beat' them.

which still means nothing, Driver mod &gt; motor swap.
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