any things/ common problems i should watch out for?

at the moment i cant decide 2 door vs. 4 door

other than google/ i wanted to know common problems you owners are having.

 

also can you guys post your average MPG?

off the books it says 22 city /25 hwy for a gsr

GSR MPG?

LS MPG?

ive found some integras with about 150-180k is the mileage too high for these motors?

 

22/25 for a gsr? tht sounds like complete ****... what ever "BOOK" your reading musta had an author who doesnt know how to drive... this is assuming the car is fully functional and has no problems which could hinder the mpg

i get 28-32 mpg on average w/ my 95 gsr and that is mixed driving

 

i got in the 30's with my gsr, and both my ls motors would get into the 30's highway as well. Of course you can get in the low 20's and teens with the gsr if you tried

 

where are you from because i might be selling my 97 ls soon

 

The only problems I have been running into are the old plastic clips. They just get brittle with age, so it's not like I'm complaining.
In my LS with a GS-R tranny I'm averaging about 26-28 mpg. Not bad, but not near as good as my Civic with an EX tranny. Whatever, it's way more fun to drive on the street. Just go with the GS-R if you have the option. You'll be happier in the future if you're looking to do any kind of modding to it. Good luck

 

I am going to check out a white Integra LS next week. Hopefully they don't want much for it.

Oh and, the LS Integras are popular candidates for mini-me swap. That is, putting a GSR V-tec head on the LS block. Not sure how much hp gain that is, but its pretty significant.

 

my 300WHP boosted GSR gets 31-34 MPG per tank all the time. mixed city highway.

 

Look for rust around the rear wheel wells. Just like any other used car, make sure the body panels all line up with no large gaps. Check the motor for oil leaks on the distributor side and around the oil pan (since those leaks are the most common).

150k-180k is obviously high mileage, but great deals can be had if the car was maintained properly. I would just have a compression and leakdown test done on the motor. Have the ball-joints inspected along with the CV boots. I'd pay more if the maintenance records are well-documented.

 

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thats pretty insane oO whats your driving habits?

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2224859

Both my Gs-R and LS get similar MPG. 26/27 City and 31/32 Highway. They are 90% on the highway/freeway though. The Gs-R is almost at 170k and the LS is at 160k, both of them run like a new car.

I'll post it again. #1 problem/concern is it getting raped.

 

I have a 2000 ls, and i get around 350 - 400 miles per tank. I run 1 tank of premium to every 5 plus. as far as problems, the only thing i ran into was a bad distributor, ut now she runs great with 2500mi on a new clutch and flywheel.

 

WHOA. THANKS for all the info guys in just one day.

so pretty much theres no difference in MPG for gsrs and ls's? except one uses 87 and the gsr uses premium?

as for right now im looking into a car for the track/autox on weekends yet still be a DD(ac, power windowslocks etc) my main focus on this car will be suspension.

anyone want to trade for a 1994 BB1 Prelude w/ H22a1?
not sure if im selling it yet. but offer me if you're interested.
love this car to death, but the MPG it gets is too much for me to pay..college student.

THANKS everyone

 

db8 for the gangsta look and for the ladiezzz dc2 if just you and yo' partner... lol

seriously, either are awesome. people will normally tell you to do a leakdown/compression test like stated above. with higher mileage integras, rebuilds maaaay be in order (if they've been run hard). integras (or i should say the b series engines) are notorious for minor oil leaks/burning. higher mileage cars will have suspension/bushing issues, possibly. i picked up a near 200k gsr not too long ago and am going through taking care of many maintance issues and... doing a whole engine rebuild ... it all comes down to how much you bought it for, how much you want to invest into it to get it up to par, and WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN KEEP SCUMBAG THIEVES off your car via, hopefully, a garage, and layers and layers of security. theft is a MAJOR issue that you're not dealing with nearly as much with your prelude.

if you just searched "integra buying" you would have found this: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2200429

good luck!

 

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Oh and, the LS Integras are popular candidates for mini-me swap. That is, putting a GSR V-tec head on the LS block. Not sure how much hp gain that is, but its pretty significant.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that is not a "mini-me" swap, it is called LS/VTEC, and yes thats "VTEC" not V-tec.

go get a stock car and don't ruin an integra with your ignorance

to the OP, either is a fine candidate, if you plan boost it doesn't matter much unless you are going big. if you are going NA the GSR is really the only choice

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BB1LOViN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WHOA. THANKS for all the info guys in just one day.

so pretty much theres no difference in MPG for gsrs and ls's? except one uses 87 and the gsr uses premium?

as for right now im looking into a car for the track/autox on weekends yet still be a DD(ac, power windowslocks etc) my main focus on this car will be suspension.

anyone want to trade for a 1994 BB1 Prelude w/ H22a1?
not sure if im selling it yet. but offer me if you're interested.
love this car to death, but the MPG it gets is too much for me to pay..college student.

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Your Prelude's gas mileage sucks? Maybe it's just driving habits, man.

BTW, the resulting GSR purchase will be MUCH MUCH FREAKING slower than the Prelude you have now.

My friend had a H22A 94 prelude S. We found a closed road and opened it back up at like 2AM. He beat my GSR by like 9 freaking cars and was pulling away. He only lost to my S2000 by 2 cars from a stop, and 1 car from a 15mph roll. It was pretty fast.

Now I sound like a ricer. I really never street race. This was just an occasion where we found a bad *** closed road (no danger to other people). I barely every drag race either.

The problems I had with my 99 GSR were:
-Not enough interior room.
-UGLY *** MOTHER FREAKING INTERIOR!!! GAH!! HIDEOUS!!
-B18C1 wasn't as fun to drive as I thought it would be.
-Gear ratios suck ***.
-You can't hear VTEC activate.
-The stereo sucked (even compared to my EM1 that I own now).
-Different header configuration on 98+ GSRs. No biggie. But irritating to find out.

All of that is just sweating the small stuff. Everything except the ugly interior was bareable. The interior was SUPER ugly, though.

Mine was my daily driver. I drove it like 500-1000 miles a week with no issues ever. The engine did make really nice torque. It handled AMAZINGLY well for a FWD car. DC2 chassis FTW. Mine had 158k on it when I traded it in...and it drove like brand new. It was still quick (about as fast as my friend's 06 Si), and got AWESOME gas mileage. Like 27-35ish depending on how I drove it. I was gonna take it to the track, but I got an awesome deal on a EM1 trade. They gave me back more for my GSR than I paid for it lol.

I guess it just wasn't my kinda car. Maybe I'm just more of a civic guy as far as daily drivers go.

I'd still take an ITR though lol.

 

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Your Prelude's gas mileage sucks? Maybe it's just driving habits, man.

BTW, the resulting GSR purchase will be MUCH MUCH FREAKING slower than the Prelude you have now.

My friend had a H22A 94 prelude S. We found a closed road and opened it back up at like 2AM. He beat my GSR by like 9 freaking cars and was pulling away. He only lost to my S2000 by 2 cars from a stop, and 1 car from a 15mph roll. It was pretty fast.

Now I sound like a ricer. I really never street race. This was just an occasion where we found a bad *** closed road (no danger to other people). I barely every drag race either.

The problems I had with my 99 GSR were:
-Not enough interior room.
-UGLY *** MOTHER FREAKING INTERIOR!!! GAH!! HIDEOUS!!
-B18C1 wasn't as fun to drive as I thought it would be.
-Gear ratios suck ***.
-You can't hear VTEC activate.
-The stereo sucked (even compared to my EM1 that I own now).
-Different header configuration on 98+ GSRs. No biggie. But irritating to find out.

All of that is just sweating the small stuff. Everything except the ugly interior was bareable. The interior was SUPER ugly, though.

Mine was my daily driver. I drove it like 500-1000 miles a week with no issues ever. The engine did make really nice torque. It handled AMAZINGLY well for a FWD car. DC2 chassis FTW. Mine had 158k on it when I traded it in...and it drove like brand new. It was still quick (about as fast as my friend's 06 Si), and got AWESOME gas mileage. Like 27-35ish depending on how I drove it. I was gonna take it to the track, but I got an awesome deal on a EM1 trade. They gave me back more for my GSR than I paid for it lol.

I guess it just wasn't my kinda car. Maybe I'm just more of a civic guy as far as daily drivers go.

I'd still take an ITR though lol.


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this whole statement is chock full of bullshit statements

1. GSR is faster than H22 prelude hands down
2. If you barely beat a h22 prelude with a s2000 then it must have been modified or you must be a terrible driver
3. if you want to hear the VTEC crossover, (not that it really matters) open up the intake and exhaust
4. Low end stock Honda radios are not that great in any chassis
5. DC interiors blow away EG and EK interiors
6. why do the gear ratios suck? they are a good mix of performance and economy

 

jomama: Thanks for the link!

B serious: yeahh my h22a1 is getting about 19mpg mostly HWY...which is crap when i get 14-16mpg avg on city. i shift under 2500 or around there.
yeahh i know the H22 wont be the same as the b18c1 so i might just skip the gsr and get a LS with the b18b1?

btw no interior will be the same as 4th gen preludes..digital dash FTW!

 

integras are really great cars man, they are very fun to drive, and can look very nice when modified correctly. The only flaws i could think of is the fact that they are prone to getting stolen, just like any other honda. But if i were you id deffenitly look into a gsr. In my opinion you will be much happier in the end. Expecially if your used to driving a h22 prelude, the ls will seem very slow. The only reason id go with an ls is if you were going to boost it, because then they can become very fun and reiable, and can be cheeper than buying a gsr. Good luck with everything, and let us know what you end up buying

 

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this whole statement is chock full of bullshit statements

1. GSR is faster than H22 prelude hands down
2. If you barely beat a h22 prelude with a s2000 then it must have been modified or you must be a terrible driver
3. if you want to hear the VTEC crossover, (not that it really matters) open up the intake and exhaust
4. Low end stock Honda radios are not that great in any chassis
5. DC interiors blow away EG and EK interiors
6. why do the gear ratios suck? they are a good mix of performance and economy</TD></TR></TABLE>

Enuff jibba jabba fool. I thought my GSR would have given the H22 prelude a good run for it's money. But I was totally wrong.

I ran 14.0 in my S2000 on a 90 degree day with no cool down time after driving 100 miles to the track. WITH A 2.2 60'!!!!!!!!!! Because I didn't wanna launch. Saying I can't drive is an inaccurate statement. I've also run 13.3 in a less than stock boost SR20DET in an S13....and a 15.3 when the car had a KA24 single cam with just a cone filter, exhaust, and LSD. . I dont drag race much, though. IMO, it's a little on the boring side.

Please elaborate when VTEC crosses over on a B18C1. Dont cheat and do a search. I wanna see how clear your knowledge is. Do you even own a GSR?

The gear ratios suck. A B16A or ITR trans would have suited the engine/car much better. That's why lots of people swap them in.

BTW, next time, you may want to use logic before you write my stuff off as "bullshit".

94 prelude S with H22 = 14.04 LB per HP or .069hp per LB

99 GSR = 15.68LB/HP or .063hp per LB

PLUS the torque difference. Both cars were equally modded. I/H/E.


The 94 prelude S weighs 2809lbs (manual). The H22 makes 195hp and like 158LB/ft. The 99 GSR weighs 2667LBS and makes 170hp and 128lb ft. It also makes power in a much higher RPM range. From a roll, the GSR KINDA kept up. But from a stop....it got destroyed.




Modified by B serious at 7:41 PM 2/25/2008

 

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Enuff jibba jabba fool. I thought my GSR would have given the H22 prelude a good run for it's money. But I was totally wrong.

I ran 14.0 in my S2000 on a 90 degree day with no cool down time after driving 100 miles to the track. WITH A 2.2 60'!!!!!!!!!! Because I didn't wanna launch. Saying I can't drive is an inaccurate statement. I've also run 13.3 in a less than stock boost SR20DET in an S13....and a 15.3 when the car had a KA24 single cam with just a cone filter, exhaust, and LSD. . I dont drag race much, though. IMO, it's a little on the boring side.

Please elaborate when VTEC crosses over on a B18C1. Dont cheat and do a search. I wanna see how clear your knowledge is. Do you even own a GSR?

The gear ratios suck. A B16A or ITR trans would have suited the engine/car much better. That's why lots of people swap them in.

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you really don't have to put down what you're accomplishments are, bottom line h22 preludes are not that fast.

vtec crossover on b18c1 is 4400rpms, i am very knowledgeable on integras so questioning me on that will get you nowhere.

obviously the itr/b16 tranny is a more performance oriented transmission but the gsr tranny fits nicely in between the LS and ITR as far as performance/economy goes.

i run a itr tranny on my b18b currently but soon it will be mated to a ~220whp b18c1

 

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BTW, next time, you may want to use logic before you write my stuff off as "bullshit".

94 prelude S with H22 = 14.04 LB per HP or .069hp per LB

99 GSR = 15.68LB/HP or .063hp per LB

PLUS the torque difference. Both cars were equally modded. I/H/E.


The 94 prelude S weighs 2809lbs (manual). The H22 makes 195hp and like 158LB/ft. The 99 GSR weighs 2667LBS and makes 170hp and 128lb ft. It also makes power in a much higher RPM range. From a roll, the GSR KINDA kept up. But from a stop....it got destroyed.


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We could sit here and bench race all day. But I'm never wrong.


Never question me again with your tiny little brain.

 

so 0.06 explains the 9 car *** beating you took?

explain how the integra type r is faster than the prelude type s then wiseguy

 

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explain how the integra type r is faster than the prelude type s then wiseguy</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol are you serious?

ITR = 195HP. Plus, it weighs less than the GSR. With better gear ratios. And more torque. I dont need to do another math problem do I? This will turn into honda-tech.edu for you. It's ok that you dont have the common sense to figure it out for yourself, though.

To recap: ITR = same HP as a prelude, but weighs around 100lbs less than a GSR. Higher trans ratios (lower gears) than either the GSR or the prelude, 130ft/lbs of torque (more torque than the GSR WITHOUT factoring in torque magnification thru 1st-3rd...which are significantly lower gears). It's not rocket science.

I never said prelude type S. They didn't sell those in the U.S. I said the 94 prelude S. The lowest end version of the prelude. The one without AC or power locks.

 

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lol are you serious?

ITR = 195HP. Plus, it weighs less than the GSR. With better gear ratios. And more torque. I dont need to do another math problem do I? This will turn into honda-tech.edu for you. It's ok that you dont have the common sense to figure it out for yourself, though.

I never said prelude type S. They didn't sell those in the U.S. I said the 94 prelude S. The lowest end version of the prelude. The one without AC or power locks. </TD></TR></TABLE>

but the prelude type s is also lighter, has more hp, and more tq you ignorant ***

i am referring to the ITR PTS battle, they both have ~20-25 more hp then their GSR/S counterparts

also the type R has 1-2 more tq and its moved higher in the powerband