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Feb 23, 2008 | 12:21 PM

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OKAY ...I HAVE A SMALL PROBLEM. I HAVE A DC2 INTEGRA AND IT HAS AN LS MOTOR. I WANTED TO SWAP A TYPE R ENGINE INTO THE BAY, BUT I WANTED TO TURBO THE TYPE R...IS THE COMPRESSION TOO HIGHT TO TURBO THE TYPE R?...IF IT IS THEN I WANT TO GO WITH THE GS-R ENGINE AND TURBO THAT BUT THE COMPRESSION ISNT THAT MUCH LOWER. IS IT WORTH IT TO SWAP THE LS FOR THE GS-R IF I TURBO IT AND NEW INTERNALS?....OR SHOULD I JUST GO WITH A B16A2 AND TURBO THAT?.........HELP HELP HELP ME PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!

Feb 23, 2008 | 12:44 PM

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Re: (_-)-(-)--^%$#!@_+____PLEASE SOMEBODY SAVE ME PLEASE(_)*&^%$#@!_+++))))(*((*(())(&*& (nvhteg)

I think you should search...

all of the motors u listed are great turbo engines. The type-r is USUALLY used as an N/A motor (due to higher compression), but it handles boost very well. I dont see u having problems with any of those motors personally.. i'd just go with the healthiest/strongest motor u can find

Feb 23, 2008 | 12:49 PM

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Re: (_-)-(-)--^%$#!@_+____PLEASE SOMEBODY SAVE ME PLEASE(_)*&^%$#@!_+++))))(*((*(())(&*& (Force1stip

just boost your LS

lol

You can save alot of the money and use it for other things.

Feb 23, 2008 | 12:50 PM

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Re: (_-)-(-)--^%$#!@_+____PLEASE SOMEBODY SAVE ME PLEASE(_)*&^%$#@!_+++))))(*((*(())(&*& (nvhteg)

Why don't you just boost your LS? Why would you want to downgrade to a B16?

Feb 23, 2008 | 12:51 PM

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Re: (_-)-(-)--^%$#!@_+____PLEASE SOMEBODY SAVE ME PLEASE(_)*&^%$#@!_+++))))(*((*(())(&*& (all-mtr-te

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why don't you just boost your LS? Why would you want to downgrade to a B16?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Now thats just amazing, we had the same idea in the same minute
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Feb 23, 2008 | 01:11 PM

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Re: (_-)-(-)--^%$#!@_+____PLEASE SOMEBODY SAVE ME PLEASE(_)*&^%$#@!_+++))))(*((*(())(&*& (all-mtr-te

ls/ boost ftmfw!

Feb 23, 2008 | 01:14 PM

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Re: (_-)-(-)--^%$#!@_+____PLEASE SOMEBODY SAVE ME PLEASE(_)*&^%$#@!_+++))))(*((*(())(&*& (nvhteg)

heres the thing...the LS would be okay to boost if i poured money into the internals and a turbo, but it only has about 142hp stock. the b16 is a more powerful engine stock so i would be gaining more power in the end after internals and a turbokit. i just think a type r is a waste of money because its $5k just for the engine and another couple thousand for internals and another few thousand for a turbo kit.... the b16 is fairly cheap as is the gs-r and i wouldnt have to totally swap the internals only mild things. pistons rods injectors...and then turbo. i think that'll handle a turbo kit better then a stock type r. and its easy to add internals to a stock type r plus a turbo if i was a millionaire but lets face it here....im looking for the most power i can get without spending a shitload of money.

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Feb 23, 2008 | 01:24 PM

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Re: (_-)-(-)--^%$#!@_+____PLEASE SOMEBODY SAVE ME PLEASE(_)*&^%$#@!_+++))))(*((*(())(&*& (nvhteg)

build your ls bottom end with pistons and rods, and then get a vtec head (b16 or gsr head, your choice). You dont need another block if you have one already thats pretty decent. Then turbo that bitch.

Feb 23, 2008 | 01:26 PM

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what will that do though?....how much horsepower will i have after that?.....i dont think alot

Feb 23, 2008 | 01:45 PM

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Re: (_-)-(-)--^%$#!@_+____PLEASE SOMEBODY SAVE ME PLEASE(_)*&^%$#@!_+++))))(*((*(())(&*& (nvhteg)

first questions you should ask yourself, is how much do YOU want? what are you shooting for?

Feb 23, 2008 | 01:53 PM

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Re: (_-)-(-)--^%$#!@_+____PLEASE SOMEBODY SAVE ME PLEASE(_)*&^%$#@!_+++))))(*((*(())(&*& (95dc2teg)

i want at least 300hp...anywhere from 300hp-400hp...........then ill be happy...thats what i want

Feb 23, 2008 | 02:19 PM

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Re: (_-)-(-)--^%$#!@_+____PLEASE SOMEBODY SAVE ME PLEASE(_)*&^%$#@!_+++))))(*((*(())(&*& (nvhteg)

woah 3 to 400..... How much are you willing to spend also.... Is this gonna be ur DD..?

Feb 23, 2008 | 03:07 PM

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yea its gonna be my daily driver....it doesnt matter. its gonna get mobil one and premium gas the least......im fine with that...i think if i go with a b16a2 and je pistons and connecting rods, an adjustable cam gear set, valves, springs, retainers, sleeve the block, pulley kit,etc...some other stuff.....im sure it can handle a good turbo kit and bring me up to 300hp.ill be suped with that and ill take pretty much anything on the road thats a daily driver. plus a nice 2step wouldnt hurt for my launch....thanks people

Feb 23, 2008 | 03:08 PM

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Re: (_-)-(-)--^%$#!@_+____PLEASE SOMEBODY SAVE ME PLEASE(_)*&^%$#@!_+++))))(*((*(())(&*& (nvhteg)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nvhteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i want at least 300hp...anywhere from 300hp-400hp...........then ill be happy...thats what i want

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every motor stated will EASILY handle 300, bone stock with a turbo, and a good tune

if you want more piston and rods for an ls are decently cheap

Feb 23, 2008 | 03:28 PM

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boost your ls, just get internals

Feb 23, 2008 | 03:39 PM

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nvhteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heres the thing...the LS would be okay to boost if i poured money into the internals. </TD></TR></TABLE>
actually the bottom end could handle over 200 hp with or without boost. the ls bottom ends are pretty tough, and can handle a fair amount of beating. just don't try to shift at the redline every gear. get a good tune, and shift when it stops making power. if by some chance it would blow, then i would recommend a rebuild. besides vtec and boost can sometimes be tricky sometimes.

Feb 23, 2008 | 04:21 PM

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nvhteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OKAY ...I HAVE A SMALL PROBLEM. I HAVE A DC2 INTEGRA AND IT HAS AN LS MOTOR. I WANTED TO SWAP A TYPE R ENGINE INTO THE BAY, BUT I WANTED TO TURBO THE TYPE R...IS THE COMPRESSION TOO HIGHT TO TURBO THE TYPE R?...IF IT IS THEN I WANT TO GO WITH THE GS-R ENGINE AND TURBO THAT BUT THE COMPRESSION ISNT THAT MUCH LOWER. IS IT WORTH IT TO SWAP THE LS FOR THE GS-R IF I TURBO IT AND NEW INTERNALS?....OR SHOULD I JUST GO WITH A B16A2 AND TURBO THAT?.........HELP HELP HELP ME PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
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Feb 23, 2008 | 04:24 PM

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LOL^^^ I love the new title

Feb 23, 2008 | 04:39 PM

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Lol i like the new title as well.
but as fcfromhell420 said.....

QUOTE=fcfromhell420]
every motor stated will EASILY handle 300, bone stock with a turbo, and a good tune

if you want more piston and rods for an ls are decently cheap[/QUOTE]

you can get 300 wheel easy on your stock block ls. Now if you want more than that and be reliable you should get better pistons, and rods. Also you may want to upgrade your ls head to a vtec head. That would be the way i would go. No reason to get a whole other motor when you have a decent block to work with already....

Feb 23, 2008 | 05:45 PM

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL^^^ I love the new title

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I didn't.

Feb 23, 2008 | 06:04 PM

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Re: (_-)-(-)--^%$#!@_+____PLEASE SOMEBODY SAVE ME PLEASE(_)*&^%$#@!_+++))))(*((*(())(&*& (nvhteg)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nvhteg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heres the thing...the LS would be okay to boost if i poured money into the internals and a turbo, but it only has about 142hp stock. the b16 is a more powerful engine stock so i would be gaining more power in the end after internals and a turbokit. i just think a type r is a waste of money because its $5k just for the engine and another couple thousand for internals and another few thousand for a turbo kit.... the b16 is fairly cheap as is the gs-r and i wouldnt have to totally swap the internals only mild things. pistons rods injectors...and then turbo. i think that'll handle a turbo kit better then a stock type r. and its easy to add internals to a stock type r plus a turbo if i was a millionaire but lets face it here....im looking for the most power i can get without spending a shitload of money.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you probably shouldn't try to throw your turbo theories around here where ppl actually have experience in the situation

boost the LS and call it a day

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boost it but seriously get it tuned. . . i turbod my ls and didnt get a good tune. . . 5 months later it was dead. . . bent crank three bent rods and a dime size hole in the first piston