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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 07:09 AM
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Default got my shifter extender from circuit hero

finally arrived


just need a short shifter now
im thinking of getting a B&M short shifter (straigh bend)

what the best combo with the extender

single or dual bend?
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 07:12 AM
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ballin shiften like a big rig
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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nice.. just one out of topic question. are u guys in UK allowed to do a LHD conversion like some of the JDM fever people do in USA converter LHD to RHD ?


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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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thats absurd sounding. You never hear that in the states
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:16 AM
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Wait.. what? You got an extender and want to put it on a short throw shifter? Sorry, but that's retarded.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D50boy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wait.. what? You got an extender and want to put it on a short throw shifter? Sorry, but that's retarded.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Haha.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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How's it retarded? Ever heard of a fastline? Essentially, that is kind of what you are "building" if you put an extender on a short throw.

Once you have driven with a fastline or fastline type shifter, it's honestly hard to go back to a stock height shifter.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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I don't see how it is retarded, it's not like it's canceling out and making the shifter itself shorter or something. each thing has it's own benefit. I would like someone to explain why it is so "retarded"
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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That guy that said it was retarded, is an idiot or he was just confused.

He probably thought the OP bought the extender to "extend" his shift throws. Then adding a short shifter would be the exact opposite.

Again, that guy is either an idiot or he was confused.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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yea, that's kind of what i had figured...
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D50boy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wait.. what? You got an extender and want to put it on a short throw shifter? Sorry, but that's retarded.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you're retarded hahah. a short throw with extender will be alot more beneficial for certain types of racing.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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What is he trying to accomplish? A short throw shifter makes the shifts shorter only because the shift **** sits way lower and makes the distance that the **** moves shorter. It does nothing to change how it moves the shift linkage. Extending it of course adds length to the shifter so it can be reached from the steering wheel faster. The **** then has a further distance to move in space relative to the stock location. Getting both will put him back to where he started. Ok... maybe at the most it would move the shift **** an inch from where the stock location was....but why spend the money for that?

My opinion still stands as it being a retarded waste of money.



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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 09:02 AM
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Do a search on FastLine shifters. That will give you a good idea on why people do this. Also, check out what every single person that has a Fastline has to say about them. There is a reason people spend $180 on a shifter. Because it's worth it.

Yes, shift throw on a short throw with an extender will be nearly stock again. However, the **** will be about 6" taller than it was stock. Some people buy it for the cool looks others get it for the function. I'll be honest. When I got my FastLine, it's because it was in a car I got on trade. I pointed and laughed. Then, I drove it. No more laughing; it's the best feeling shifter I've ever had in a Honda. This extender should make a short throw about the same as the fastline short of the mass of the FL shifter.

Don't knock it til you try it....

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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D50boy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is he trying to accomplish? A short throw shifter makes the shifts shorter only because the shift **** sits way lower and makes the distance that the **** moves shorter. It does nothing to change how it moves the shift linkage. Extending it of course adds length to the shifter so it can be reached from the steering wheel faster. The **** then has a further distance to move in space relative to the stock location. Getting both will put him back to where he started. Ok... maybe at the most it would move the shift **** an inch from where the stock location was....but why spend the money for that?

My opinion still stands as it being a retarded waste of money.
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NO. a short throw shifter will change how the shift linkage moves. if you have ever compared a genuine short throw to a stock one you will notice that the ball is alot higher. It not just about how low the shift **** is.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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my short throw shifter is actually a few inches longer than the stock shifter. but the throw is significantly shorter. short throw has nothing to do with the length of the shifter
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 09:44 AM
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Awesome. I want to try this concept. I think it will be very beneficial.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Fastline shifters use weight so the stick can be "tossed" with a flick of the wrist.

Big difference between this:



and this:

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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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OK guys....... after a little bit more researching into the short shifters, I will admit I was wrong about it not doing anything for the shift linkage. Some short shifters do move the fulcrum point of the lever underneath the car.

But still:



and



... is a world of difference.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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a short shifter changes the distance between the pivot point and the linkage. ie: the distance between the "ball" and the "place where the shifter bolts to the linkage" is actually LONGER on a short throw...thereby reducing the throw.

the height of the visible shift lever (the part seen inside the car) has really no effect on shift throws.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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You may have been treed, but yes I said that in the post above yours.
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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right guys
ordered my B&M 49% throw shifter (straight bend)
should be here soon
i hope
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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i love it when people admit to having their head up their ***.


i applaud you d50.
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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Wow nice shifter extender. Not bad for 38$. I would love to own a fastline shifter also but 180 is a price out of my reach. Does that extention have any effects on ur driving at all?
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcem1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow nice shifter extender. Not bad for 38$. I would love to own a fastline shifter also but 180 is a price out of my reach. Does that extention have any effects on ur driving at all?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Shorter hand travel from steering wheel to shifter
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcem1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow nice shifter extender. Not bad for 38$. I would love to own a fastline shifter also but 180 is a price out of my reach. Does that extention have any effects on ur driving at all?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Better shift **** position. Hands closer to the wheel without having to take hand off the wheel for a longer time, especially on a road course.
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