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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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I kno this may have been discussed a million times but after slaving over this comp for 5 hours straight looking for my answer i got SUPER pissed off and decided to create this new thread. And before anyone flames me yes i did use the search button and yes i did use the archives....hell, i even used google for an hour and a half BUT NO i just cant find what im looking for. So here is my question Which B series responds best to bolt-ons etc. NO turbo nada. OK? any info given out could be greatly appreciated and if anyone thinks taht im just a noob with no idea what im *******talking about u can shut the hell up cuz i prolly kno more than u...except the moderators of course. ANY info would be greatly appreciated and no BS cuz that just pisses me off. Again, the question is Which B series responds best to bolt-ons, mods, etc.?


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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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b18c5 or b20/ls-v
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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why....just u sayign so means it so? or is it from personal experience?
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by l337m4n &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b18c5 or b20/ls-v</TD></TR></TABLE>

A B18C5, i don't think so man, in fact it probably it the most difficult to make extra power since its already more tapped out than other models.

I don't know if one is the best, but non vtec engines line B18A/B and b20's are very easy to increase power from stock.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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Here are stock #s
stock b18c5 - 161-165 whp, 109-113 wtq
stock b18c1 - 140-144 whp, 103-107 wtq
stock b16a2 - 132-135 whp, 94 - 98 wtq
stock b18b - 121-125 whp, 108-112 wtq
Now look for them with i/h/e
B16 you'll get around 10,c5 around 15, But i think i've seen the ls-v do like 20.These are just numbers from other forums and threads not mine so i don't know if they are lying or not.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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if you want NA the only way to make real power is K series. hope you have a job that pays well.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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Thats prolly why my B18b is so high up on my dyno cuz b18b are easier? i guess
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Other than any Type R (Civic or Integra), the next best swap that responds well to bolt on's would be the GSR. It also lovesssss boosttt


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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .PLUMMM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Other than any Type R (Civic or Integra), the next best swap that responds well to bolt on's would be the GSR. It also lovsssss boosttt </TD></TR></TABLE>

i havnt met an engine yet that doesnt love boost ... besides the high comp ones of course.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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Well im not talking about boost im just wondering which responds best from personal experience or fact....im starting anew project in the summer and it MIGHT be a b16...not sure yet...but why would a GSR be the next best.... and didnt honda squeeze almost every last hp out of those type R engines. SO wont i only get minimal gains from bolt ons if i did type R?
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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not to steal the thread or anything....but since we WERE talking about FI, how many pounds of boost do you guys think a stock b16 could take (for daily driving) no tune or injectors.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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Dude this is THREAD JACKING u dumbass....why dont u start ur own thread or use the FCKING search button....i used it for expletiveing 5 hours and all u do is come in to thread jack. WOW u dipshit. AND NOONE WAS SERIOUS ABOUT THE FI cuz i stated that i wanted BOLT ONS(all motor)


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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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ok what kind of build are you going for? bumped up C/R, new rods, cams and valve train or are you looking for bolt ons?
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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damn...sorry man,

didnt think you were gunna be such a little bitch about it...jeez.

ive used the search button for more complicated answers (wiring harness, electrical, etc..)

but since it was such a simple question that has such a simple answer i just thought i might ask. plus, it isnt a major enough problem that i needed an answer right away.

yet again im sorry.

i didnt know you were a little bitch.


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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by forc3dinduction &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dude this is THREAD JACKING u dumbass....why dont u start ur own thread or use the FCKING search button....i used it for expletiveing 5 hours and all u do is come in to thread jack. WOW u dipshit. AND NOONE WAS SERIOUS ABOUT THE FI cuz i stated that i wanted BOLT ONS(all motor)


Modified by forc3dinduction at 8:14 PM 2/19/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

well since your a trial user and you seem to be all high and mighty maybe you should know all this info without askeing then huh?? says you have a built b18b you should know all this **** then. sinc it just bolt on who really gives a flying expletive because overall you might gain 5-10whp with I/H/E on any motor. chill out.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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OP, I couldn't read your original post because your sentence structure and grammar suck.

I'm not going to try and comprehend that garbage you wrote.

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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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its always good to try new things, K24/K20 Frank...if its a B series you like, i would say a GSR, it has more potential and gains more power when modded than any other B series
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jasony0630 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not to steal the thread or anything....but since we WERE talking about FI, how many pounds of boost do you guys think a stock b16 could take (for daily driving) no tune or injectors.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not to egg on the thread jacking, but ANY SETUP WITH NO TUNE AND/OR AN UPGRADED FUEL SYSTEM IS NOT A GOOD IDEA, AND WILL MOST LIKELY BLOW UP IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME! Just thought I would let that kid know before he blows his **** up
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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well thanks, i know the basics of FI (or atleast i think i do..) but i AM getting a tune with a chipped p28 on CROME when i do add FI on my setup.

i was just wondering what i should run it at stock....

thank you though, im glad youre watching over my engine
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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you know if you searched for 5 hours you would see the stickied " what swaps are available for my car?" and it talks about the diferent engines and how well they respond to bolt ons......
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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on the b18c5 i remember readin a forum on an integra forum (TI) where the guy claims he lost hp from an SRI. now he was going off how it felt and not on actual dyno sheets
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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all b series respond decently to mods depending on the mods done and your goals. If your just talking i/h/e then it doesn't matter, your still gonna be slow.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by forc3dinduction &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dude this is THREAD JACKING u dumbass....why dont u start ur own thread or use the FCKING search button....i used it for expletiveing 5 hours and all u do is come in to thread jack. WOW u dipshit. AND NOONE WAS SERIOUS ABOUT THE FI cuz i stated that i wanted BOLT ONS(all motor)


Modified by forc3dinduction at 8:14 PM 2/19/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

why don't you quit being a bitch about it, your first day here with 5 post and you are already flamming on another member with more post than you and have been here longer than you? chill out dick
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jasony0630 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not to steal the thread or anything....but since we WERE talking about FI, how many pounds of boost do you guys think a stock b16 could take (for daily driving) no tune or injectors.</TD></TR></TABLE>

about 3-5 psi correct me if i am wrong
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thatonekid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

about 3-5 psi correct me if i am wrong </TD></TR></TABLE>
no tune or injectors im gunna say dont let that bad boy spool up or all that money and time will be wasted. just do it right.
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