i just have a question about the wireing. does anyone know what ecu i need and if i need a jumper harness. i am about to buy one right now but need to know what all i need to run the vtec engine

 

you will need an F22B1 engine wiring harness, an obd0 to obd1 jumper harness, and your car will need to be wired for VTEC.

 

ok why obd0 to obd1 connector......90 accord is obd1(95% sure) basically to do this swap(did it last year) you will need to do/ get the following

P0A ecu with all 94-95 vtec wiring from engine bay to the ecu

driver side motor mount from 94-95 honda accord

front motor mount modification(you will need to make it adjustable so it can move slightly up and down when the bolts are loose)

you may or may not need the axles from the 94-95 accord due to slight sizing

also you must use your existing p/s pump alternator and a/c compressor as the f22b one will hit the hood....for the alternator you can use the original one but will need the spindle from the 94-95 one...use the f22b a/c compressor if your running a/c....and the p/s pump will require minor modification of the lines but isn't really a big deal

i know im forgetting a bunch of stuff so feel free to chime in

 

I didn't know that 90-91 accords were OBD1. I know some 90-91 hondas are still obd0 (preludes, some civics).

 

I AHVE A F22B1 90 EX THAT I AM WORKING ON AND TO BE HONEST NONE OF THESE TARTS KNOW WHAT YOU NEED YOU CAN USE ALL YOUR MOTOR MOUNTS OFF THE F22A1 AND YOU WILL NEED TO USE A P28 IN WHICH THEN HAS TO BE TUNED FOR YOUR APPLICATION I TRIED TO USE A POA THAT'S CRAP RUNS LIKE CRAP AND NOONE WILL TRY TO MESS WITH THAT IT'S KOOL THOUGH CAUSE THE P28 IS ALSO FOR SOHC VTEC'S SO WHAT YOU WILL NEED IS THE FOLLOWING
1)P28 ECU
2)XTENDED FUEL LINE (UNLESS YOU USE YOUR OLD RAIL)
3)NEW BELTS (NOW YOU WILL BE 6 STRAND INSTEAD OF 5)
4)94-97 POWERSTEERING PUMP(ILLIMINATED MINE)
THATS PRETTY MUCH IT BUT MOTOR DROPS RIGHT IN YOU SHOULD JUST HAVE TO CHANGE THE 5TH GEN TIMING BELTS SIDE MOTOR MOUNT AND INSTALL THE 90 ONE IN .....REALLY EASY DROP IN IT'S THE WIRING AND REST OF CRAP THAT'S ANNOYING CHANGING A6 FROM 11 ETC.,,,...WELL HERE IS A QUICK BREAK DOWN I KNOW I CUT ALOT OF STUF BUT YOU QUESTION FOR THE MOST PART ARE ANSWERED.[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FRANKIESPEED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I AHVE A F22B1 90 EX THAT I AM WORKING ON AND TO BE HONEST NONE OF THESE TARTS KNOW WHAT YOU NEED YOU CAN USE ALL YOUR MOTOR MOUNTS OFF THE F22A1 AND YOU WILL NEED TO USE A P28 IN WHICH THEN HAS TO BE TUNED FOR YOUR APPLICATION I TRIED TO USE A POA THAT'S CRAP RUNS LIKE CRAP AND NOONE WILL TRY TO MESS WITH THAT IT'S KOOL THOUGH CAUSE THE P28 IS ALSO FOR SOHC VTEC'S SO WHAT YOU WILL NEED IS THE FOLLOWING
1)P28 ECU
2)XTENDED FUEL LINE (UNLESS YOU USE YOUR OLD RAIL)
3)NEW BELTS (NOW YOU WILL BE 6 STRAND INSTEAD OF 5)
4)94-97 POWERSTEERING PUMP(ILLIMINATED MINE)
THATS PRETTY MUCH IT BUT MOTOR DROPS RIGHT IN YOU SHOULD JUST HAVE TO CHANGE THE 5TH GEN TIMING BELTS SIDE MOTOR MOUNT AND INSTALL THE 90 ONE IN .....REALLY EASY DROP IN IT'S THE WIRING AND REST OF CRAP THAT'S ANNOYING CHANGING A6 FROM 11 ETC.,,,...WELL HERE IS A QUICK BREAK DOWN I KNOW I CUT ALOT OF STUF BUT YOU QUESTION FOR THE MOST PART ARE ANSWERED.[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]</TD></TR></TABLE>

HAHAHAHHAHAHAH

No

 

OH ABOUT THE OBD ACCORD THAT ARE 4TH GEN ARE NONE OBD NOT 1 OR 2 SOME PEOPLE CAL THEM OBDO IN WHICH IS UNDERSTAND ABLE BUT NOT CORRECT

 

NO? WHT YOU 4 REAL THE DUDE POSTED THIS ADD IT'S MY WHIP HE IS WORKING ON TRUST ME EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH BOLTS UP ONLY WIRING WILL BE DIFF.DATS IT...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheMuffinMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

HAHAHAHHAHAHAH

No</TD></TR></TABLE>

what do u mean NO!!! dont post unless u know what u are talking about. first off the motor is in and running. it is a 90 accord and yes they are obd1. 89 was the last year that they came non obd. unlike the civic crx's that stayed non obd til 92. u can use your original mounts, its in there and bolted up perfect. the POA makes the car run like ****. p28 is the way to go. AND FRANKIE, turn off the expletiveing cap locks. its annoying

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FRANKIESPEED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OH ABOUT THE OBD ACCORD THAT ARE 4TH GEN ARE NONE OBD NOT 1 OR 2 SOME PEOPLE CAL THEM OBDO IN WHICH IS UNDERSTAND ABLE BUT NOT CORRECT </TD></TR></TABLE>

and they are obd1. that is why your ecu plugged up. weedtart!! if it was non obd then it wouldnt have plugged into your ecu

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted92hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what do u mean NO!!! dont post unless u know what u are talking about. first off the motor is in and running. it is a 90 accord and yes they are obd1. 89 was the last year that they came non obd. unlike the civic crx's that stayed non obd til 92. u can use your original mounts, its in there and bolted up perfect. the POA makes the car run like ****. p28 is the way to go. AND FRANKIE, turn off the expletiveing cap locks. its annoying</TD></TR></TABLE>

Haha I'm not saying "no" to you.

I'm referring to Frankie's post.

1) Caps
2) You don't need a P28 ECU
3) etc

Not to mention he's already made a post himself saying his is not running correct.... wonder why

 

As to you boosted.

Your car is OBDI, assuming you swapped in an OBDI accord motor (up to 1995) then just use the 1995 P0A ecu that came with it

 

the car i am working on is frankie speeds car, that is why i am saying no what. i did use a obd1 f22b1 and the P0A ecu. with the stock ecu it runs great but once we plug in the POA the **** starts but then it shuts right off. it is an auto ecu but i know an auto ecu will work. i dont get why the expletive the stock ecu works from the 90 accord but the P0A shuts off, i know the accords use a seperate ecu for auto trans. any ideas. the p28 will run it though,

 

and yes caps lock is annoying as expletive as i already told u frank. turn them off. people hate that ****

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FRANKIESPEED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I AHVE A F22B1 90 EX THAT I AM WORKING ON AND TO BE HONEST NONE OF THESE TARTS KNOW WHAT YOU NEED YOU CAN USE ALL YOUR MOTOR MOUNTS OFF THE F22A1 AND YOU WILL NEED TO USE A P28 IN WHICH THEN HAS TO BE TUNED FOR YOUR APPLICATION I TRIED TO USE A POA THAT'S CRAP RUNS LIKE CRAP AND NOONE WILL TRY TO MESS WITH THAT IT'S KOOL THOUGH CAUSE THE P28 IS ALSO FOR SOHC VTEC'S SO WHAT YOU WILL NEED IS THE FOLLOWING
1)P28 ECU
2)XTENDED FUEL LINE (UNLESS YOU USE YOUR OLD RAIL)
3)NEW BELTS (NOW YOU WILL BE 6 STRAND INSTEAD OF 5)
4)94-97 POWERSTEERING PUMP(ILLIMINATED MINE)
THATS PRETTY MUCH IT BUT MOTOR DROPS RIGHT IN YOU SHOULD JUST HAVE TO CHANGE THE 5TH GEN TIMING BELTS SIDE MOTOR MOUNT AND INSTALL THE 90 ONE IN .....REALLY EASY DROP IN IT'S THE WIRING AND REST OF CRAP THAT'S ANNOYING CHANGING A6 FROM 11 ETC.,,,...WELL HERE IS A QUICK BREAK DOWN I KNOW I CUT ALOT OF STUF BUT YOU QUESTION FOR THE MOST PART ARE ANSWERED.[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]</TD></TR></TABLE>


you just proved yourself wrong and we are the tarts?.....if you can use all the mounts off the f22a then why do you need to change the drivers side motor mount


i can see why yours doesnt run right but unlike you ive done this swap and it DOES run right...the only thing i have left to do is wire the vtec and im saving that for when it gets warm....theres more then one way to do this swap....and ive tried 2 of them


Modified by bseriescrxsi at 11:41 PM 3/5/2008

 

running into problems with the poa, that is because the poa ecu has the egr and 02 sensor wires are swapped the only ecu honda has like that. everything else is drop in and plug and play

 

HEY TART LOL..the only mounts that will work is the mounts off f22a1( your 90-93 mounts )with the f22b1 swap into those gens ,what are you talking about, the mount that goes where the timing belt goes you also have to shave the mounts 3rd bolt hole .inner side where old mount bolts into f22b1 because the timing belt in time as it loosens and what not will rub especially on high or rough idle then SNAP! so beware...

 

SHUT THE FU.. UP MOMO...LOL HEAR YOU CRYING ...WAAAAAAWAAAAA...WAAAAWAAA LOL

 

if your talking about the f22b1 sohc motor then you are retarded because the motor mount on the timing belt side doesn't even match up to the plate.....now if your talking about the f22b dohc then your right......so while yours is running like shyt and mine is running good you can keep talking your shyt

 

fu you must be a real dick it's my post so if you got issue **** off.....

 

both of u chill, frank your new to HT, dont curse and all that. theres no need. people are just giving advice but as for the engine and mounts go. we did have to use the f22a1 mounts on the f22b1. the f22b1 mount on the driver side is 2 wide to fit into the slot. it is like a inch to wide. so if u use the mount off the side of the a1 and the actual mount it bolts right in. and his car does run right. the only idle problem is because its a poa from a auto it idles a little funny. but the car runs awesome and the compression is 190 190 188 190. the running problem was because one of the clips were not making contact on the injector plug.

 

if it is the f22b1 SOHC vtec there is no way you used the f22a1 mount unless you took the whole side of the motor apart to put the piece on the motor that would fit or you attached the mount to the motor piece with only 1 bolt and about the f22b1 mount being to wide.....grind wheels work wonders if you know how to use them

 

no wonder frank talk **** to u, u think u know everything, we did use the a1 mounts and yes we did take the cover off, usually when u do a swap u put a new belt on anyway. and all three bolts lined right up. have u tried it, NO. then u dont know. why would i use gringing wheels when the a1 mount dropped right in. i would hate to see how clean your swaps are. i do swaps so they look like honda put them there. u do them so it looks like APC put them there. and i gaurentee i can operate any tool on a more advanced level then your rookie ***.

 

i mean look at the cars u have owned, a junk civic, a accord with a little sohc vtec and a NEON. are u joking comeing into a thread and putting your 2 sense in

 

are you serious dude first off the neon was given to me and i made it look good...neons cant be fast so yea that was out...and my sohc is nowhere near done so get the hell out of here....and those are my recent cars not all of them......and unless you pieced it together i hope your not trying to say you have an f22b dohc vtec...because they dont make them as far as i know

and as for not knowing what im doing.....your dead wrong....but anyway i mean no disrespect to you...it is your buddy that has no idea in hell what he is doing ...you may you may not but your buddy does not


Modified by bseriescrxsi at 12:41 AM 3/11/2008