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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Default Winter driving ?

hope u guys can help.
heres the spec on my vehicle.

99 civic hatch dx
type r disc conversion, stock itr wheel
dunlop sp5000 205/50/15 air press norm
BC N+spec
15 level adjustment / i have it four notches above complete soft.
asr sub frame w/ ctr bar rear
sway bar is connected to skunk lca in stock position (i believe)
up front i have a itr swaybar and PWJDM tri-point on top.

heres what is happening with my car. exiting out of a clover or in the middle of it.
i can feel the cars tail slip. any thing over 40 and its terrifying.
road conditions : i drive for about a good fifteen highway miles before reaching this clover leaf. road is dry but little salt dusty. temp is 15F to 25F.
is there any light that u guys might be able to shed to my sus setup here.

oh yeah i live in stp mn road condition suks for the BC n+spec as DD.
might sell it when spring comes.
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Default Re: Winter driving ? (Zing Xiong)

handling issue-slow down
suspension complaint-stock for winter, coilovers for summer
<-----BC rsd's on the shelf
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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Default Re: Winter driving ? (Zing Xiong)

A: Slow down.
B: Get winter tires.
C: If A and B don't work, You could try unhooking the rear sway bay.
(I don't know if C would help or not.)
D: If A, B, And C do not work. Get something else to drive in the winter!!
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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Default Re: Winter driving ? (Zing Xiong)

Winter driving requires an entirely different setup--basically you need a loose surface setup like rally cars.

Which means
1) Dedicated Winter Tires. This is the most important. You should be able to locate studded or studless snow tires for $100-200, possibly with wheels from places like Craigslist. 14's, 15's are really easy to find.

Having good, dedicated snow tires on Honda will trump having All Wheel Drive. Tires! Tires! Tires!

2) You need more mechanical grip: Softer springs, dampers, no sway bars (or very soft). Removing the sway bars will help quite a bit.

That takes care of turning, going and stopping for the most part.

3) If you want to be able to go and not get stuck in all but the worst situations, having an LSD helps a lot.

But ultimately, you're just not going to have much grip. Drive like you don't have brakes--cause basically you don't. Master threshold braking. Turn or Stop: pick one.

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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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Default Re: Winter driving ? (Zing Xiong)

Yup. Tires just don't grip all that well in cold temperatures. These guys ^^^^ are right - a good studless winter tire (like the Bridgestone Blizzak WS-60 or Michelin X-Ice) is going to give you better grip than all-season tires like your Dunlop SP5000. But you still can't expect any tire to give you as much grip in cold weather as your tires do in warm weather. Slow down!
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Locked.....we do not condone driving fast on public roads!
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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Default Re: Winter driving ? (Zing Xiong)

no where in this thread does it ask about driving on track or at an autox....

anyone can throw money at their car and get some ill handling problems with it!!!

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