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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 06:21 AM
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"This is a direct replacement for the large bushings in the front lower control arms. This will help with traction control and also give more response and feel in steering and hard cornering.

This will fit all 2002-2006 DC5 Integra, 2002-2005 EP3 Civic Si, and all 2006+ FA/FG Civic (any chassis). "

Is this something we can use to replace those bushings that so commonly torn?
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 06:35 AM
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I'd rather not have the ridiculous PWJDM lettering, and since I've already bought something else...
http://www.clubrsx.com/cr/PCI-....html
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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So both of these are replacements for the compliance bushings??? or is it something else?
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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so they fit then?
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 07:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OVNI_CIVIC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so they fit then?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No idea, but I've got access to tools to make them fit, if they don't.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toyomatt84 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No idea, but I've got access to tools to make them fit, if they don't.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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So well either of those fit the stock lca's or am i missing something.
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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$200? They're getting rich.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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back up, anyone installed these yet?

my damn driver's side compliance bushing busted all the way this morning, prolly cus i dropped it finally on saturday...
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OVNI_CIVIC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

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I'm sorry this has been taking so long, I've been waiting for PCI to drop ship them.
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 05:25 AM
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i'm sure if they didn't have their lame logo all over their products they'd sell a lot more stuff.
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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they should fit

i'm thinking dc5/ep3/em2 front LCAS are all the same except for JDM DC5 Type-R
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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If they fit the DC5 and EP3 they will fit our cars as well.

And in regards to the lettering... Really? Who cares if they plasters their logo on a set of bearings tucked away where no one will see them?

IMO, if it is a quality product I would grab it in a second. If only they offer a version offset for improved caster
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JamesL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If they fit the DC5 and EP3 they will fit our cars as well.

And in regards to the lettering... Really? Who cares if they plasters their logo on a set of bearings tucked away where no one will see them?

IMO, if it is a quality product I would grab it in a second. If only they offer a version offset for improved caster </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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how exactly do you think that bearing could be in any way modified to adjust castor? castor adustment must be done at the top of the strut dude. rediculous fukin price. like really.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 02:28 AM
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those ones do not modify your caster in any way, you need to look up some JDM companies for caster-increasing ones.

i'm sure M&M Honda makes 1, but it's crazy expensive, BUT it adds 3 degrees of caster at the very least
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackKready &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how exactly do you think that bearing could be in any way modified to adjust castor? castor adustment must be done at the top of the strut dude. rediculous fukin price. like really. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Like really though. Clearly you don't know what you are talking about.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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ok , lol.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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you're looking at these.
http://www.mandm-honda.com/ep3_asimawari.html

notice the bushing on the LCA, its not centered, hence giving you more caster

but like i mentioned earlier, these bushings are VERY VERY expensive, you're looking at 700 bucks a set, so unless you're really into tracking your car, i suggest you not waste money for these
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 04:46 AM
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they would have to be really well sealed, any sand or grit of any sort would wear it out fast
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Synapz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you're looking at these.
http://www.mandm-honda.com/ep3_asimawari.html

notice the bushing on the LCA, its not centered, hence giving you more caster

but like i mentioned earlier, these bushings are VERY VERY expensive, you're looking at 700 bucks a set, so unless you're really into tracking your car, i suggest you not waste money for these</TD></TR></TABLE>

For the M&M/Buddy Club/J's Racing sets that replace all the pivot points in the Front LCAs with spherical bearings, yeah... they are quite expensive.

The units offered from PWD and Special Projects only replace the compliance bushing and are much more affordable.

Granted, you are correct, if you aren't tracking your car I would advise against using these... but more so for the increased harshness, noise, and maintenance than the cost.
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackKready &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok , lol.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Perhaps if you phrased your post as a coherent question people would be more inclined to answer it.

Spherical bearings that replace suspension bushings are made up of a pivoting monoball rotating within a circular bearing. In applications like ours, ie: the front compliance bushings, the bearing is held within a shell.

This shell permits the bearing, and thus the monoball(which is the axis of rotation), to be offset in relation to actual center of the shell.

Sort of like this, where the brackets represent the shell, the parentheses represent the bearing, and the "O" reresents the monoball:

Stock, where the bearing is centered:

[---( O )---]

Offset, where the bearing is not centered:

[-----( O )-]

With our front suspension design, the caster angle can be improved by moving the top mounting position of the struts backwards, or moving the lower pivoting position of the front steering knuckles forward.

The latter is what the "caster improving/offset" spherical beaings accomplish. By shifting the the LCAs slightly, the lower ball joints are shifted as well. Simply changing the rotational axis by a few mm can add much needed caster to the car.
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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dude , i know very well how these cars work thanks. my question wasnt coherent cause i didnt have a question , lol. trying to add positive castor to your ride this way will not work properly. the LCA's are attached to the car in 2 places dude , not one. so changing 1 of those mounting points is a cheap *** unsafe way of going about it. youl be paying whatever it costs in your area for an alignment for what? 1 degree of positive castor? anyways , it dont matter , to each thier own. just dont like anyone taking cheap routes like this with stuff like suspension , thought id add my 2 cents since i work on these cars daily. in order to properly add + castor on these cars in particular since they are macpherson , you must use tophats.
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JamesL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Granted, you are correct, if you aren't tracking your car I would advise against using these... but more so for the increased harshness, noise, and maintenance than the cost.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Increased harshness? I'd like to see your logic on this one, as the compliance bushings don't absorb anything but lateral impact. The only "harshness" you'd be feeling, would be under severe cornering, with low profile tires. Even then, it's a stretch.
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackKready &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude , i know very well how these cars work thanks. my question wasnt coherent cause i didnt have a question , lol. trying to add positive castor to your ride this way will not work properly. the LCA's are attached to the car in 2 places dude , not one. so changing 1 of those mounting points is a cheap *** unsafe way of going about it. youl be paying whatever it costs in your area for an alignment for what? 1 degree of positive castor? anyways , it dont matter , to each thier own. just dont like anyone taking cheap routes like this with stuff like suspension , thought id add my 2 cents since i work on these cars daily. in order to properly add + castor on these cars in particular since they are macpherson , you must use tophats. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok... since you seem to know so much, perhaps you'd like to address the reason why this product actually exists?

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