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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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93 civic
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Ok I used the washer trick to set my camber to spec in the rear. the only thing is that the pass. side rear took more washers than the drivers side to even them both out. Io thought that both sides should use the same mount?? I was thinking somehting could have been bent so I snagged a upper trailing arm at the junkyard and replaced but still no good. has anybody had this problem?? could it be something else bent? LCA,Strut,sagging spring? juss throing these out there.

If I use the same amount of washers on both sides (2) the pass. rear is cambered in like .5-1 degree more. noticable to the eye.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JLefevers &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">93 civic
1.5 in drop/lowering springs
Ok I used the washer trick to set my camber to spec in the rear. the only thing is that the pass. side rear took more washers than the drivers side to even them both out. Io thought that both sides should use the same mount?? I was thinking somehting could have been bent so I snagged a upper trailing arm at the junkyard and replaced but still no good. has anybody had this problem?? could it be something else bent? LCA,Strut,sagging spring? juss throing these out there.

If I use the same amount of washers on both sides (2) the pass. rear is cambered in like .5-1 degree more. noticable to the eye. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Its normal to have a bit of camber difference left to right. The car had it stock, due to how the car sits on its suspension, though not that much of a difference.

When I lowered my Integra, I counted threads on my coils to set the left and right spring perches at an even height. Since the car is heavier on the driver's side (B series sits on driver's side of the car), the rear of the car sits slightly lower on that side as well. This gave me an additional -0.2* of rear camber on that side.

Of course, if you have softer springs than me, or are at a much different ride height, you could have more or less camber difference. Not sure how much is acceptable, but 0.5* difference isn't worth worrying about IMO (I am no expert though).
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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what is the washer trick
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 07:27 AM
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Or you could just get adjustable camber kits. You can get them for like 85 bucks for a set.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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How about NO camber kit for a 1.5" drop?
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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why pay $85 when the bolts and washers was $4.78.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JLefevers &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">noticable to the eye.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So, have you actually put the car on a rack?
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK_B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How about NO camber kit for a 1.5" drop?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah. A camber kit isn't necessary with a minimal drop like that.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JLefevers &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why pay $85 when the bolts and washers was $4.78.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because the camber settings can be changed to desirable position if need be. On a street car...not really a big issue though.

How many washers did you use per bolt? Anything over 2-3 is overkill with a minimal drop.
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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might sound like craziness...but are you on level ground?
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