make a long story short.... thought I had a bad dizzy wasn't getting spark but could smell fuel, so i borrow a dizzy from a friend, car still wouldn't start, but smelled like gas even worse... so i got curious and took the top of the intake mani off and found the whole intake full of fuel... to the top it spilled out as I removed the top of the plentum. only code I'm getting is a ECT at this point. seems like the injectors are just dumping fuel but can't figure out why any idea's??? at this point I'm almost forgot it's a obd1 engine with just bolt ons and a p13 ecu

 

Probably should repost in the Prelude forum...

 

What kind of distributer are you using? Internal or external coil? And is your H22 OBD1 or OBD2.


EDIT

I just saw that your motor is obd1..

Your going to need obd2 injectors, obd2 p13 ecu, and a obd2 distributer.

Eric

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Alpinestar03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kind of distributer are you using? Internal or external coil? And is your H22 OBD1 or OBD2.


EDIT

I just saw that your motor is obd1..

Your going to need obd2 injectors, obd2 p13 ecu, and a obd2 distributer.

Eric</TD></TR></TABLE>it's a jdm engine all the jdm h22 are internal coils, I don't have to change everything to obd2..... but curious to why you say that when the computer is a obd1, I have the same post in the prelude forum the car did run obd1

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Alpinestar03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kind of distributer are you using? Internal or external coil? And is your H22 OBD1 or OBD2.


EDIT

I just saw that your motor is obd1..

Your going to need obd2 injectors, obd2 p13 ecu, and a obd2 distributer.

Eric</TD></TR></TABLE>

Uhhhhh???????????????

No

95 Prelude Injectors
Stock OBDI ECU
Stock Dizzy

I wouldn't listen to him hotrod, give me a sec so I can read your stuff, I recently did this swap myself.

 

Spark Plugs good?

Friend's Dizzy was internal coil and tested good?

Wiring good? (you need to add two wires min)

 

sup muffin man the harness was re built by ry wire I kinda fubared it. the dizzy came off of a obd1 h22 (internal) that was running 20 min before we tried it on mine... the fuel may have been from us trying to start it a thousand times, anyway can I check a dizzy if it isn't connected to a car? I know you can check the ohms on the coil, but what about the cyp or the ckp tdc, I have a few I got from my impound lot but not sure if there any good, I'm going to have to give my friends back to him.
is there any place I can buy the pins that go in the plugs? I've learned a lot since i tried to build my first harness, going through the thing a thousand times and racking your brain tends to make you learn the hard way. i'm basically starting over everything and doing it right.. not in a hurry like i was before. there is a few sensors that have to be extended to reach.... using a f22b1 harness I don't want a bunch of solders in this one.

 

Gotca,

For the pins in the harness, easiest place I can think of is "suvlights.com" it's where I ordered the parts to do my headlight conversion harness, but they sell the little metal pins separately to allow you to remake those cables.

I would check and double check the wiring harness if you "fubared" it as it could be as simple as a bad wire.

Not too sure on checking a dizzy off the motor itself other than a visual inspection to make sure nothing looks broken up (you could take off the cover)

My guess on the gas is like you said, just from trying to start it it flooded.

I would take a peek at the wiring first and see if anything obvious is there. Worst case is start with a fresh F22B1 harness.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheMuffinMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Gotca,

For the pins in the harness, easiest place I can think of is "suvlights.com" it's where I ordered the parts to do my headlight conversion harness, but they sell the little metal pins separately to allow you to remake those cables.

I would check and double check the wiring harness if you "fubared" it as it could be as simple as a bad wire.

Not too sure on checking a dizzy off the motor itself other than a visual inspection to make sure nothing looks broken up (you could take off the cover)

My guess on the gas is like you said, just from trying to start it it flooded.

I would take a peek at the wiring first and see if anything obvious is there. Worst case is start with a fresh F22B1 harness.</TD></TR></TABLE>


i trashed the old harness its just not worth it anymore. the dizzy that came with the engine looks real clean.. the engine came out of a half cut so I knew the mileage and it only had 7000 km on it. if you take the valve cover off it's still silver! wasn't run long enough to get that golden color yet.

 

i men't obd1... my bad.

It was mad late when i posted that..

 

I just did a JDM swap in my cd7 and i had to convert from external coil to internal. Im not shure if your 97 has an external coil but if your trying to use an Internal coil you have to, remove your external coil and splice the thick solid yellow wire and the thick black/yellow wire, on the coil's plug, together.

I had to do this on my swap.

Eric

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Alpinestar03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just did a JDM swap in my cd7 and i had to convert from external coil to internal. Im not shure if your 97 has an external coil but if your trying to use an Internal coil you have to, remove your external coil and splice the thick solid yellow wire and the thick black/yellow wire, on the coil's plug, together.

I had to do this on my swap.

Eric</TD></TR></TABLE>

if your not into the splicing you can also put a 30A fuse into the coil harness and secure it there...same concept less chance of bad rewiring

 

Just want to note... engine is amost rewired a few more connections, tape back up and recover we'll see how well it goes this time.. taking a break for food. I will basically say this to Ryan at rywire "instead of sending back that piece of crap harness I sent you, you should have sent a hammer with instructions to beat my head in". all I can say is when you do the wiring part of your swap don't be drunk...... it helps!! to be continued........

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hotrodaccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just want to note... engine is amost rewired a few more connections, tape back up and recover we'll see how well it goes this time.. taking a break for food. I will basically say this to Ryan at rywire "instead of sending back that piece of crap harness I sent you, you should have sent a hammer with instructions to beat my head in". all I can say is when you do the wiring part of your swap don't be drunk...... it helps!! to be continued........</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lol.

Best of luck with it, wiring problems are the biggest pain in the *** to handle but if your harness was all gunked up, I'd wager that's where your problem lies.

 

ur injectors are stuck open.

 

I got the new harness in I have fuel pressure..... but still no spark, checked coil and ICM both are ok tired another ecm same thing no spark, I'm also getting power to everything, yel/grn wire has 12 volts in process of going through the steps of trouble shooting.... still only code I get is the ect! Any ideas this is really aggrivating me!!

 

Dumb question hotrod.

What spark plugs are you using?

Did you get new ones with the swap?

 

Are you still using the internal coil dizzy? If so make shure you disconnect the old external coil and splice the two wires i mentioned before.

Do any of your plugs spark when you crank the motor, or is there absolutley no spark what so ever? You could just have a short in the harness especially if you dont think RyWire's workmanship was up to par. Id test the wires on your dizzy for continuity.

 

OMG........ I went through the same crap with my 96 cord but i used my stock harness if ry wire done ur harness it should be a easy plug and play right!! the best i'll check is the wires running to the crank wires to the dizzy that's what was stopping my car from starting the whole time. o yeah btw check ur grounds also

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheMuffinMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dumb question hotrod.

What spark plugs are you using?

Did you get new ones with the swap?</TD></TR></TABLE>

brand new plugs.... denso
new water pump t belt seals all that good crap

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Alpinestar03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you still using the internal coil dizzy? If so make shure you disconnect the old external coil and splice the two wires i mentioned before.

Do any of your plugs spark when you crank the motor, or is there absolutley no spark what so ever? You could just have a short in the harness especially if you dont think RyWire's workmanship was up to par. Id test the wires on your dizzy for continuity.

</TD></TR></TABLE>
Junked the Ry wire harness made a new one! replaced everything all new grounds I went throught the whole thing!! I know it's got to be something stupid but I can't think of anything i over looked!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondatuningboi96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OMG........ I went through the same crap with my 96 cord but i used my stock harness if ry wire done ur harness it should be a easy plug and play right!! the best i'll check is the wires running to the crank wires to the dizzy that's what was stopping my car from starting the whole time. o yeah btw check ur grounds also</TD></TR></TABLE>

checked the grounds and made new ones... still not even a flicker on the plugs..... this is total BS!! I also have a new dash harness I'm going to jerk the old one out and re pin the new harness so i don't have to use that piece of crap jumper plus it's har as hell to get all those wires in neat under the floor pan. Any Ideas I'll take anything this is really pissing me off!!

 

the old engine was a f22b1 so it had the internal coil, the harness is perfect still the only code I'm getting is for the ect and I know thats not gonna stop the engine from starting is there any relays that might have popped that controls anything I ohmed out the entire harness no shorts or open wires even tried my new harness on a friends car tried his ecu also so i know its not the computer..
So basically this is what i have tried a new computer, new dizzy (3 of them) and a new harness my next move is to go throught the dash harness infact i have a new one of those and see if that fixes it but how the heck can that have gone bad??


Modified by hotrodaccord at 12:30 PM 2/16/2008