ok so i have the tein H-tech on my si with STOCK struts and the handling and ride are both really smooth BUT the rear is still a lil high and im debating on cutting them, they have a few dead coils at the top and i was thinking about taking one of these off.. does anyone know what the reprocussions will be like? or how rough the ride will be if at all? and will i be ok with stock struts? thanks

 

I say don't because you're going to throw off the spring rates and the suspension characteristics and you're going to bounce everywhere, and especially on rear springs only, it's going to be noticable because of the front end weight bias.

Everyone's gonna say it's a bad idea. Just look for a new set of springs, they should cost less than 200 bucks and you can sell these off to help.

 

Agreed...who the hell cuts springs anymore? Do it right the first time man.

 

true..o well just a thought i had

 

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Eh it's ok. As time goes on you'll figure out Tein is selling based on its name. There are better and cheaper products out there

 

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Eh it's ok. As time goes on you'll figure out Tein is selling based on its name. There are better and cheaper products out there</TD></TR></TABLE>

Like what? I'm looking to lower my si. What brand would you recommend? I here Eibach Sportlines and ProKit a lot. I know Sportlines are more for street and ProKit is geared more toward track. What would you recommend?

Two things I really know nothing about on a car are suspension (lowering, camber, etc.) and wheels/tires (offset, backspacing, etc.)

 

got it backwards there chief. sportlines are the more aggressive spring
http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/star....html

I've had eibachs on several cars, Hondas and a Mustang. They've always been good quality, they were never bouncy, and the ride was still pretty smooth.

If you're looking for just springs, I trust eibach and comptech the most.

 

OH...oops my bad. I've heard that if you just use springs with our stock shocks, it throws off the geometry of the suspension or something. Is this true? If I do go to an eibach, should I change shocks too?

 

lowering can throw the toe and camber off. you should always have the car aligned afterwards.

the problem with stock shocks is that when lowering springs are put on the shocks are required to work in a different range than before. Being that the shocks weren't designed to work in the new range they are given, failure can occur.

That being said, there are plenty of people riding on stock shocks and lowering springs. It's just not ideal.

 

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like i said i have tein h-techs on stock shocks and i live on staten island and i still have a really smooth ride and great handling but its only a 1 inc. drop if ur going lower than an inch i would def. recomend doin shocks as well

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IT GUY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lowering can throw the toe and camber off. you should always have the car aligned afterwards.

the problem with stock shocks is that when lowering springs are put on the shocks are required to work in a different range than before. Being that the shocks weren't designed to work in the new range they are given, failure can occur.

That being said, there are plenty of people riding on stock shocks and lowering springs. It's just not ideal.

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Cool. Yea I knew I would need an alignment if I lower my car. Would I also need a camber kit? I'm assuming I will. (I am looking for only about a 1 inch drop)

And to the OP; like I said, I practically know nothing about suspension, but everytime I've seen someone bring up cutting springs, the response was an overwhelming "no, don't do it".

 

you may not need the camber kit if you have an '08. The 06-07 models seemed to have alot of negative camber from the factory in the rear. The 08's seem to have much less, and shouldn't be as "out of wack" once lowered.

OP: don't cut your springs

 

Cool. Yea I have an '08. Can the shop where I get my car aligned check for negative camber? I assuming that's how I would determine if I need a camber kit.

 

Basically the problem with lowering springs is that after a certain point, the shocks lose their travel. The stiffer and shorter springs means the shock can't compress and rebound as well, and it puts extra wear and tear on the shock. When you lower the vehicle too much, you begin to change the camber, but the good news is Eibach offers a camber kit for the Civic so you can adjust it based on your preferences and factory tolerances.

Good shock companies are Tokico, Koni, and Bilstein. Tokico offers an adjustable shock (illumina), and IIRC, the Koni has an adjustable perch.

I'd personally recommend the Illumina for its ability to adjust its stiffness on a DD if you don't need the adjustable perch.

 

I'll never buy Tokico's again. I had a set of them in my JEtta a few years back and I blew them in less then 6 months. I forget which specific ones they were, but they were the "Blue struts" if that helps. It's been a while, so forgive me.

I highly recommend Koni or Bilstein.

 

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Yea, the Blues (Tokico HP) aren't much better than stock. The Illumina's are white, and they're the 5 way adjustables and they're designed for performance. I'd recommend them for a street car, and something more like Koni for a track car. They're a lot tamer in that aspect, 2-3 is an improvement over stock but still allows for some travel, while 5 is good if you're tracking it on the weekends occasionally or something.

I believe the Koni's are 3 way adjustable vs. the Illumina's 5 way as well. The big problem right now is that it seems only Tokico and KYB have any shock apps for the Civic. Koni has been 'in development' for a while but no real word yet.

 

like my man ITGUY said eibach or comptech! I just ordered the comptech springs from comptech for $127 to my door. now is the time to buy! they are on sale and are made buy eibach get'em before the're gone. I dont have a camber kit just yet but I think im just going to put them on and see how bad it is out then go from there.

 

COMPTECH FTW!