i have the opportunity to purchase a 90 crx with a swapped h22, its got other goodies jdm front end, good suspension kit, i have a crx thats been sitting, and looking for a fun car to drive while i work on my EK k24 turbo swap, still assembling parts, anyways the body is rough on the h22 crx but my body is mint, how is this swap daily driving, ive searched up top and cant find ride opinions as far as the crx goes, does it handle as bad as some people claim, with good suspension and brake upgrade is there anything else you can do to improve if need be.

 

A full H22 swap weighs roughly 30 pounds more than B16 swap. Do you think that removing the battery from the front of the car would make the difference between good and bad handling? Neither will an engine 30 pounds heavier than a B.

 

Its said that the h22 motor in a crx is only good for straight runs because of the oversteer/understeer issues!!! Not for a daily driver

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alscrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its said that the h22 motor in a crx is only good for straight runs because of the oversteer/understeer issues!!! Not for a daily driver </TD></TR></TABLE>

Read my post and stop spreading mis-information you putz

 

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Read my post and stop spreading mis-information you putz</TD></TR></TABLE>

x 1000

next person that says an H series causes oversteer/understeer because of its weight is gonna get an e-knife to the kidney.

BTWnice use of the word putz. one of my favs.

 

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/any other discussion on the matter

I've driven a CRX with a H22 and there wasn't even much of a difference from when it had the stock motor.

 

There's suspension out there that can make the ride more comfortable with the swap. Either way even if it's daily driven you're not gonna be doing 100 around corners. At least i hope you're not.

 

i drove a hatch with a h22.... it was stupid fast. a crx would be retarded.. i want one.

 

thanks fellas nice to hear first hand experience, the guy im buying it off is some asian rich kid, thats banged up the body on the car a few times, checked compression 250 across the board and doesnt burn a leak so i know drivetrain is good, jdm front is somehow untouched compared to rest of vehicle, and the illuminas and EIbachs should improve my ride, along with some other goodies i need to finish my car, $3000 isnt a bad price, anyone agree.

 

If your willing to pay it then its good value.

 

$3000 CAN sounds like a decent deal if the motor and the interior are mint.

 

I thought that the weight of the motor itself isn't the issue, it is the placement of the weight being so far forward that made the handling an issue.

I had a crx with a b16a in it and it does feel more front end heavy than stock. moving the battery to the trunk does help.

I wouldn't say not to buy it, but take a close look at it. how straight are the axles? are the mounts in good shape? how did they do the exhaust setup? I've seen some scary looking exhausts.

drive the car and you tell us how it feels. If you like it, buy it.

 

only problem i can see with having an h22 in an ef is that it sits so expletiveing low that you cant lower your car without worrying about ripping your oil pan off..

 

i have an h22 in my ek, lowered on ksports, handles better then stock... i bottom out sometimes.. but its only the header.... i prolly only hit the oil pan once or twice... just got to know the road... and dont drive everywhere...

 

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i have an H22 crx... runs great. doesnt feel any different that a B series swap (besides a crapload more power!) . ignore all the rumors and false garbage spread on honda-tech about understeer or whatever nonsense is spread around. you will definitely enjoy this crx with an H22... depending on what mount kit it doesnt hang that low. i have the innovative mounts and it sits great. actually the motor doesnt look that big in my car. Our H2b also fits great in our other crx.

just to let you see how fast this can be our I/H/E untuned (chipped ecu) H2B crx ran 12.3 on slicks. if its a JDM motor it will def hit 12's no prob.

 

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i have an H22 crx... runs great. doesnt feel any different that a B series swap (besides a crapload more power!) . ignore all the rumors and false garbage spread on honda-tech about understeer or whatever nonsense is spread around. you will definitely enjoy this crx with an H22... depending on what mount kit it doesnt hang that low. i have the innovative mounts and it sits great. actually the motor doesnt look that big in my car. Our H2b also fits great in our other crx.

just to let you see how fast this can be our I/H/E untuned (chipped ecu) H2B crx ran 12.3 on slicks. if its a JDM motor it will def hit 12's no prob.

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H2b fits nicely in a ef???? pics or ban?

but seriously, i always heard massive clearing of the hood was required for an H2b in a ef.

 

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H2b fits nicely in a ef???? pics or ban?

but seriously, i always heard massive clearing of the hood was required for an H2b in a ef.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I cut a hole in my hood, he spaced his what looks like roughly 1 1/2 inches. Either way works. But the ground clearance is fantastic.

 

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H2b fits nicely in a ef???? pics or ban?

but seriously, i always heard massive clearing of the hood was required for an H2b in a ef.</TD></TR></TABLE>

here's a pic. its not too bad. clearance for an aftermarket intake manifold is great too as the motor is tilted forward slightly. we fit a skunk 2 manifold in our crx pretty easily with the stock brake master. on my all H22 swap there is no way in hell it would fit without my kens kustom master cylinder.




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Modified by h22crxpwr at 9:46 AM 2/28/2008

 

yea thats the pic qsd sent me when i was inquiring about a kit.... not bad but i wouldn't park anywhere and feel safe about people not stickin their grimey expletiveen hands in there.

 

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yeah, but he doesn't drive it all the time. and when he does its either parked in a garage (house) or at the track... so we don't really have to worry. honestly with all the theft these days and the cops handing out tickets like mad its not worth it to have a real daily driven street car.. in my opinion.. or at least here in Socal!!

a regular H22 swap (h22 trans) in my crx fits with the hood closing. thats how mine is. no spacers needed. can't even tell what motor is in there unless you look at the shifter or look underneath.

 

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What I don't understand is why NOBODY has stepped up with a proper hood for H2B setups. I think that ALOT more people would do this if there was a better solution to the hood problem.

 

I agree Matt... I wish i knew someone that had the original jigs / molds or w/e for the bullfrog hood :-\

 

I'd get the car yeah, tis a bit different from the norm and just think you'll have the big block 4cyl honda engine in a tiny CRX chassis but all price and budget dependant of course

Fiberimages apparently sell one to clear the hood, I believe hasport can source them. This was a while ago a read this and fiberimages may of shut down or changed name.

Can you get street legal one piece front ends for the swap? Im from the UK and have considered importing one.

 

no one piece front end that i've seen would be street legal as none of them encompass headlights / turn signals.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djnikko &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd get the car yeah, tis a bit different from the norm and just think you'll have the big block 4cyl honda engine in a tiny CRX chassis but all price and budget dependant of course

Fiberimages apparently sell one to clear the hood, I believe hasport can source them. This was a while ago a read this and fiberimages may of shut down or changed name.

Can you get street legal one piece front ends for the swap? Im from the UK and have considered importing one. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Definately need more info on this h2b fiberimages hood. I think they should just make a hood similar to the sir hood but with a slightly higher and wider hump. I hate cowl hoods and how they look. Totally worth the $3000. The front end being untouched simply means that it hasn't been on the car very long


Modified by thevtecnician at 9:47 AM 2/28/2008