I creating a new post because I only got one response in my last post and it was specific to two different models. I am now looking into other models. Times have changed and I fell out of knowing which brands were good a long time ago. And brands that used to be good now suck. So I am looking to get a response out of people who are actually around this equipment.

I'm looking to drive a 1.5 ohm load a set of JL audio 8w7s

What I have been looking at so far
Autotek MM 1000.1D
Lanzar OPTI1400D
MA Audio HK401SX
Phoenix Gold RSd1200.1
Soundstream PCA1000D

I'm open to other brands just let me know what you think.

 

i personally like the lanzars because they are cheap reliable good quality amps. i have owned a couple of phoenix gold amps and havent ever had any luck with them ma audio is good but kinda expensive and autotek i havent even heard of nor have i heard too much about soundstream. i have used a wide variety of amps but still the one i side with most out of those 5 is the lanzar

you might want to look at a brand called pyle, they're cheap but perform real well

 

Diamond audio D61000.1

I own one and have used several in customers cars.

 

The autotek amp is a real good amp, US amps are probley the best money can buy, crossfire, diamond, Hifonics. There are alot of good amps, the only thing is unless you buy the amp online your going to pay alot more for a true 1000 watt amp. and another thing to take in consideration is 95% of the time when you buy something online it doesnt have a warranty or its refurbished.

 

kenwood kac-9103d is a decent amp, it sales for $299 at best buy. it is rated at 500rms @ 4 ohms, 900rms @ 2 ohms, and is 1 ohm stable but doesnt give a rating.
we sell and install alot of these amps at work and have extremely good results out of these for the price. i think almost all of the others car audio salesmen and other installers i work with all run these sub amps in there personal vehicles as well. just a thought.

 

yo. alpine is goin to have a 2000w amp out soon its the v power amp. this is the biggest mono block alpine amp ever made. retails for @ 600 bucks. but there is alot of other brands also out there ... arc audio ,zapco , kicker ( they are still under rated amps) and list could go one for days... lol dont buy nuttin you can find at best buy. even tho they say kenwood pioneer , they are a custom line up made just got best buy

 

For the price range you can't go wrong with the soundstream or the ma audio amps. I use them and for a budget amp you will love them.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wrx-killer-Sti-eater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For the price range you can't go wrong with the soundstream or the ma audio amps. I use them and for a budget amp you will love them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm kinda still in the research stages. I would like to get a class D just for the efficiency (less stress on the electrical system) but these take a nose dive once the impedance is dropped. And sound quality for the most isn't so great no reason for that other then poor designs. I have no clue how JL gets $1/watt for there class D amps.

I have been looking at a few Arc Audio amps as of lately. Would like to find one of there H-class amps used or a really good deal on a new one. Also found a Alphasonic Class D in this price range. They used to be really good amps but like everyone else I have no idea now.

 

you would be good if you have this amp .... http://www.arcaudio.com/produc...0.asp

 

jl = im not a big fan of jl, i would much rather buy a zapco or arc amp over jl anyday ...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm kinda still in the research stages. I would like to get a class D just for the efficiency (less stress on the electrical system) but these take a nose dive once the impedance is dropped. And sound quality for the most isn't so great no reason for that other then poor designs. I have no clue how JL gets $1/watt for there class D amps.

I have been looking at a few Arc Audio amps as of lately. Would like to find one of there H-class amps used or a really good deal on a new one. Also found a Alphasonic Class D in this price range. They used to be really good amps but like everyone else I have no idea now.</TD></TR></TABLE>


I not really into alphasonic. I seen to much trouble with them over heating and poping. So I never really looked at them again. Its not jl that has a rating of $1/watt. Its a avarage of most compaines that it ends up like this.

I use the mtx te1501d and the mtx te 4001d and love them. they never heat up and provide there rms output down to 13.5 volts. I about to strapp two of the te4001d soon to try out one of the 22' jack hammer sub. But it would be used to push 3 15 9500's after I give back the 22' sub to my rep.

 

I was a big fan of Autotek for budget amps a few years ago.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wrx-killer-Sti-eater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its not jl that has a rating of $1/watt. Its a avarage of most compaines that it ends up like this.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This has been the norm since I could ever remember. For a class A/B or class A it makes sense to pay $1/watt. For class D I would make the argument that its only worth $.30-.50/watt. Most class D amp manufactures follow this.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NA425DragSter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you would be good if you have this amp .... http://www.arcaudio.com/produc...0.asp</TD></TR></TABLE>
WAAAAAYYYY more amp then I need to drive a set of 8s. LOL.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wrx-killer-Sti-eater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I not really into alphasonic. I seen to much trouble with them over heating and poping. So I never really looked at them again. </TD></TR></TABLE> They used to be really good amps. I have no clue nowadays. Still look well made but looks can be decieving. Any more info you can provide?

 

Thats not what the unit that I opened up look like. It was a 1k watt mono amp that we had a cc. But I am also baseing this off a amp made 4 years ago. I am just going off what i know. Companies can change. And with all these products on the market its hard to keep all there info down. I not saying that there products are garbage now. But then We had to many issues. I try to stick to what i carry and to what i use in a every 30 day period. Which is allways mtx, pioneer, soundstream,ma, alpine. All the other high-ends units like arc and zappco and a few others. Its like a blue moon because most people won't shell out cash becuase there not common around here. I will vouch for hifonics because they will to also put down power on a budget till it heats up.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wrx-killer-Sti-eater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Companies can change. And with all these products on the market its hard to keep all there info down. I not saying that there products are garbage now. But then We had to many issues. I try to stick to what i carry and to what i use in a every 30 day period.</TD></TR></TABLE> I understand exactly that's why I am looking. What was a good company yesterday may suck today. I think what has happened to PG is truely sad. That company has switched gears completely.

 

How is the stuff from former greats like Orion, PPI, etc. since they were bought by DEI?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rochesterricer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How is the stuff from former greats like Orion, PPI, etc. since they were bought by DEI?
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there not bad really.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rochesterricer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was a big fan of Autotek for budget amps a few years ago.
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Autotek Mean Machines used to be considered one of the best. It's funny to hear there name and budget amp in the same sentence.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxxtreme &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I understand exactly that's why I am looking. What was a good company yesterday may suck today. I think what has happened to PG is truely sad. That company has switched gears completely.</TD></TR></TABLE> that wat happend when companys get bought out ... dei and maxisonic .... they are tryin to make a sale off of the name the old product that used to be good .... all the dei and maxisonic stuff is pretty much crap ... most the older company close down cause in the 80's and very earily 90's most companys would make atleast 200% off of wat they put into it to each product ... as more and more company open up shop and went to oversea, the profit margen got lower. all the good usa made product couldn't compete so they shut down ... now that dei and maxisonic bought out alot of the good brand they are just tryin to sale a product for the name it had back then....

 

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Autotek Mean Machines used to be considered one of the best. It's funny to hear there name and budget amp in the same sentence.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well they were budget compared to real high end stuff. I guess I only think of them as budget because I was able to find them for big discounts at several places. The MSRP was high compared to anything that could've been called budget, so I see where you are coming from.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NA425DragSter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> that wat happend when companys get bought out ... dei and maxisonic .... they are tryin to make a sale off of the name the old product that used to be good .... all the dei and maxisonic stuff is pretty much crap ... most the older company close down cause in the 80's and very earily 90's most companys would make atleast 200% off of wat they put into it to each product ... as more and more company open up shop and went to oversea, the profit margen got lower. all the good usa made product couldn't compete so they shut down ... now that dei and maxisonic bought out alot of the good brand they are just tryin to sale a product for the name it had back then.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not true with dei. They took over a company that owner did not want anymore. They still have all there old tech working for them. They even helped out with mb quart. I not going to stop buying or selling them because it has a sister company named maxxsonics.

 

and whice company would that be? cause when the rep of dei came in the store i workd at the time told me different. but i only askd him the company i liked. like orion, ppi, a/d/s, .

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NA425DragSter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol dont buy nuttin you can find at best buy. even tho they say kenwood pioneer , they are a custom line up made just got best buy</TD></TR></TABLE> this is the most bs ive read on here all week. but knowing how alot of people on here think ill put it like this. PROVE IT! and i dont mean hearsay. I am good friends with the owners of every custom shop in my area, hell ive worked for most of them. they carry the same lines we do at best buy and its the same exact product.

 

The only time I ever saw Best Buy have anything that resembled its own product line, when I worked there, is when Rockford Fosgate Painted some bd1000's black instead of grey, because BB only carried the Punch line and not the Power line.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rochesterricer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only time I ever saw Best Buy have anything that resembled its own product line, when I worked there, is when Rockford Fosgate Painted some bd1000's black instead of grey, because BB only carried the Punch line and not the Power line.
</TD></TR></TABLE> rockfish fosgate had been make bb lines snice the .2 @2 line. alpine type e sub is also another one... and if you want i can find more product line for bb


Modified by NA425DragSter at 10:07 AM 1/28/2008