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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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Default What else to do to break 200whp?

I've been reading in the all motor threads and i've seen good numbers form pro 1's and pro2's, and i know its not the bigger the cam, the bigger the numbers, but i was hoping to find some professional advice on what cams would suit my set up the best. all opinions are appreciated!

B18C1 Block - PR3 pistons ( .010 over )

B16A head - dual valve springs , CTR cams.

Skunk2 intake manifold
BBK 70mm throttle body
STR fuel rail
Holley fuel pressure regulator
AEM ITR intake ( 3 inch )
skunk2 cam gears

JDM ITR header

PR3 ECU
Hondata Stage 2
OBD0
11.1:1 Compression ratio (thats what I got form the compression calculator)

180 Whp
130 Wtq


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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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LS Crank and rods
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by youmayneverknow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LS Crank and rods</TD></TR></TABLE>
There are a ton of 200+ whp cars using gsr/itr crank and rods.

If it were my set-up I would opt for the pro1's, they would perform well with your compression ratio.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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what size injectors?
a better header and i think your compression is more than that like 11.5 to 11.8
also if putting in those cams have them degreed in and have all clearnces checked. like valve to piston, valve to valve and retainer to valve seal guide.
even though they are stage 1 one for the pro series these are some seroius cams.
also with a 1.8 with your bore and compression pro 1's would be the better choice. pro 2's are for a big 1.8 build or more suited for a 2.0 motor..
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 12:21 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2196325
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 12:21 PM
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make a 200whp stamp.. smash with hammer and all will be fine.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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pro 1's should get you 200 whp on a good tune...decent header
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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dynopack or a nicer dyno
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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Default Re: What else to do to break 200whp? (PandaMan)

Obvious things that stand out would be cams, header and exhaust.

Cams= lots of choices -Skunk pro1, stage 2 tuner series, RM M22x, BC IV, Jun 3, Toda B or C, Blox B or type C, just to name a few.

Header- Hytech, SMSP, RMF, Bisimoto, or any of the cheap knock off's on the market if you want to chance it (fit and finish, cracking etc).

Exhaust- 2.5" T1R, Kteller, SMSP, Hytech, others...

Extra help- bpi flow stack. You also don't need to go above a 68mm throttlebody. Stock bored out by someone like MAXBORE is fine.

Bigger injectors will not give you any additional power they will simply allow you to make it if it's there and the stock ones were maxed out. 310cc is fine.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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i have the h22 injectors which i believe are 290
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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bigger cams, better header, and EXHAUST.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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good port and polish and valve job
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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the cheapest and easiest way to get over 200 is get a B20 and put the RS pistons in and a b16 head.Even with stock cams it will make over 200.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racecar chassis builder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the cheapest and easiest way to get over 200 is get a B20 and put the RS pistons in and a b16 head.Even with stock cams it will make over 200.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i'm trying to keep the b18c1 block that i already have.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good port and polish and valve job</TD></TR></TABLE>
and i'm trying to stay away from a $1400 head job.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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get an LS crank and a little higher comp.That JDM header will be fine.I have seen motors make 250 with a jdm type r header.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00Red_SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Extra help- bpi flow stack.
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did some research and that thing is pretty crazy, i had never heard of it till now.

I'll probably go w/ pro 1's, BpI flow stack, a nice header, and get it retuned
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good port and polish and valve job</TD></TR></TABLE>

x2

A correctly ported head and great set of cams will get you there without question.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PandaMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i'm trying to keep the b18c1 block that i already have.


and i'm trying to stay away from a $1400 head job.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No need to spend $1400 on a head job, contact "Combustion Contraption" his prices are very very affordable and for what he does he definately undercharges.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No need to spend $1400 on a head job, contact "Combustion Contraption" his prices are very very affordable and for what he does he definately undercharges.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks, i'll look'em up
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