welding a v-band on a 4 bolt flange turbo
just bought a turbo and i also have a 3" v band but the turbo is for a 4 bolt down pipe flange anyone have any pics of a v band weldedon to a 4 bolt turbo flange?
(p.s. i searched)
(p.s. i searched)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2177352
I think the first few pics in that thread are 4 bolt.
I think the first few pics in that thread are 4 bolt.
Try a atp adaptor. http://www.atpturbo.com
V-Band Adapter Module, 4 bolt GT 3" to 3" V-Band
Code: ATP-FLS-028
Price:$59.00
V-Band Adapter Module, 4 bolt GT 3" to 3" V-Band.
Precision 3D CNC machined from billet mild steel.
Allows easy transition from the Garrett GT 4 bolt 3" discharge on Garrett GT housings to industry standard 3" V-band.
Design criterias were ease of use and compact size.
This unit does not incorporate any welds and is solid in construction.
Overall height is less than 1.25".
V-band side is fully compatible with any of the V-flanges and clamps that we sell as well as all of our V-band based downpipes.
V-Band Adapter Module, 4 bolt GT 3" to 3" V-Band
Code: ATP-FLS-028
Price:$59.00
V-Band Adapter Module, 4 bolt GT 3" to 3" V-Band.
Precision 3D CNC machined from billet mild steel.
Allows easy transition from the Garrett GT 4 bolt 3" discharge on Garrett GT housings to industry standard 3" V-band.
Design criterias were ease of use and compact size.
This unit does not incorporate any welds and is solid in construction.
Overall height is less than 1.25".
V-band side is fully compatible with any of the V-flanges and clamps that we sell as well as all of our V-band based downpipes.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedgsr1234 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the pics
how do you weld that ? you cant just tig weld it can you ? dont you have to pre-heat it first</TD></TR></TABLE>
Preheat, and also when your done you need to let it cool down slow.
how do you weld that ? you cant just tig weld it can you ? dont you have to pre-heat it first</TD></TR></TABLE>
Preheat, and also when your done you need to let it cool down slow.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by riceball777 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just make an adaptor
just weld a 3" v band flange on a 4 bolt flange
Modified by riceball777 at 10:16 AM 1/13/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
how will you get the bolts in or tighten it ?
just weld a 3" v band flange on a 4 bolt flange
Modified by riceball777 at 10:16 AM 1/13/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
how will you get the bolts in or tighten it ?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how will you get the bolts in or tighten it ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
good call haha. That'd definitely be a waste of time and money to weld a v-band to a 4 bolt flange. The purpose of this isn't to save space or be able to use v-band....it's to never have to worry about those gay 4/5 bolt flanges having bolts to back out. That's the most frustrating thing EVER.
To let it cool: What I did when I did mine, get a big <U>medal</U> bucket as well as a second smaller bucket, some playground sand at Home Depot, and lastly some aluminum foil.
First just put the turbo and bucket with all the sand in the oven.....separately. The sand take alot longer to heat up evenly so keep that in mind (start the sand first).
Once the sand is heated up througholy, take the turbo's hot side out and weld it up. This doesn't take long so leave the sand in the oven. Once the turbo is done being welded quickly take the sand out of the oven and dump like 1/2 to 3/4 of it in that second bucket you have. Put the turbo with the centersection going up and down (so sand can be there). Now take that second bucket and pour the sand back in to encase the turbo. Wrap the aluminum foil around the top to seal it in and let it sit for hours. When I did it, my sand was cool after like 6 hours.
Some may think this is overkill and say to just weld it, however stainless to cast iron isn't a normal type weld and there is no sense in cutting corners and risking having to do it all over again.
EDIT: Oh and if you're transporting it anywhere make sure you have a couple towels and several mit-style oven mits. That bucket is going to be hot as hell for a long time haha.
Modified by Dunc at 2:14 PM 1/13/2008
good call haha. That'd definitely be a waste of time and money to weld a v-band to a 4 bolt flange. The purpose of this isn't to save space or be able to use v-band....it's to never have to worry about those gay 4/5 bolt flanges having bolts to back out. That's the most frustrating thing EVER.
To let it cool: What I did when I did mine, get a big <U>medal</U> bucket as well as a second smaller bucket, some playground sand at Home Depot, and lastly some aluminum foil.
First just put the turbo and bucket with all the sand in the oven.....separately. The sand take alot longer to heat up evenly so keep that in mind (start the sand first).
Once the sand is heated up througholy, take the turbo's hot side out and weld it up. This doesn't take long so leave the sand in the oven. Once the turbo is done being welded quickly take the sand out of the oven and dump like 1/2 to 3/4 of it in that second bucket you have. Put the turbo with the centersection going up and down (so sand can be there). Now take that second bucket and pour the sand back in to encase the turbo. Wrap the aluminum foil around the top to seal it in and let it sit for hours. When I did it, my sand was cool after like 6 hours.
Some may think this is overkill and say to just weld it, however stainless to cast iron isn't a normal type weld and there is no sense in cutting corners and risking having to do it all over again.
EDIT: Oh and if you're transporting it anywhere make sure you have a couple towels and several mit-style oven mits. That bucket is going to be hot as hell for a long time haha.
Modified by Dunc at 2:14 PM 1/13/2008
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedgsr1234 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea i was thinking about welding on to the 4 bolt flange but the v-band covers the holes </TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't. Just eliminate the 4 bolts and your life will be alot less stress-free. Another way you can do it to give yourself some more room...is take the ATP 4-bolt to v-band adapter and then weld that to the turbo. That is what I did, but I took of the numbs for the bolts......
Don't. Just eliminate the 4 bolts and your life will be alot less stress-free. Another way you can do it to give yourself some more room...is take the ATP 4-bolt to v-band adapter and then weld that to the turbo. That is what I did, but I took of the numbs for the bolts......
Id just send the housing to ATP and have them machine it for a direct v-band setup:
http://atpturbo.com/root/relea...6.htm
http://atpturbo.com/root/relea...6.htm
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