i just baught this type-s off an insurance auction, it was stripped of pretty much everything as u can see in the pics.. i have about 14-16g's to dump into it. i definetly am going for the complete k20a motor and tranny off of JHPusa.com. thats about as far as i know, got some questions for u guys....Just so i have some motivation to get the work done, what does a K20a run on quarter mile roughly? And if any of u guys wanna take a look at that motor on JHP and what it comes with and look at the pics of my car and tell me what small parts id proly forget and need to get the bitch runnin that would be tight! Also any reccomendations from anyone who has done this type of work before? Lastly, while the car is being put together there are probably alot of parts that i should buy now where i could save money on install later, so far i baught nice engine mounts, engine dampner and thats it...any Recc's here?

Here is the link to the car domain i had to make just do get these F*****g pics on

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2978992

 

get rid of the engine dampener if you have aftermarket motor mounts you don't need it.

 

i would buy either a k20a2 or k20Z1 just to save some money and with the money saved i would buy like a jackson supercharger or sumthin i dont see the sense in paying that much for a type r motor. maybe look into trying to get your hands on some JDM interior like red recaro seats and the red carpet. also try looking on Hmotorsonline.com they have some pretty good deals on swaps

 

i agree the k20a is a little ridiculous in price but the k20a type-r motor/tranny are race built. And as you can see i have no motor so either i buy a k20a2 for 3500 or go big with the k20a for a little under 5g's. i floored around a k20a2 and its pretty quick i can imagine the k20a, can someone gimme some feedback on the k20a whose driven one?

 

Well what are you're power goals and 1/4 mile goals. Decide that and we can help you.

 

I would be happy running around a 13.8, what would it take the k20a/tranny to put out a 13.8? anybody know?

 

Make your first mod K-pro. It's probably the best mod you can do.

cold air intake/raceheader/exhuast/ and a nice set of sticky tires should put you in the 13's

I made 205whp with CAI/RH/E/K-pro and only did 14.2 @ 100 but that was with the crappy worn down bfg street tires. Good luck man.

 

Just breaking it down for fun (est.)....

$5,000- K20A motor + Transmission
$200-700- Intake
$400-1200- Header
$500-1200- Exhuast
$1,500- Kpro
$1,200-2,000- Wheels and tires
$1,500- Seats
$3,000-4,500- Supercharger
$270- Motor Mounts
$400-$1500- Suspension
$350-1000- Audio equipment
$500- Type R wing
$xxx for whatever interior and exterior parts you need

But you're looking at roughly spending $12,120- $16,370 Not including other parts you may need.

 

the way i see it, to get it running...

i paid 1400 for the car...
k20a/tranny-5600
Toda exhaust-1000
CAI-350
JDM recaro seats (front)-1200
JDM recaro seats (rear)-400
alpine in dash screen-900
type r wing-400
type r center counsel-250
type r gauges-150
Tein full coilovers-1700
buddy club short shift kit-150
innovative engine mounts-270
labor-1000
a/c unit-300?
05-06 type-s wheels (for now)-400?

anyone see any problems with these numbers?

 

All I gotta say is good luck. You certainly have your work cut out for you

 

You're going to drop 14K into a salvage title car? You will never, ever, get your money back out of it if you ever decide to sell.

I can understand a project car for $1400, but not sure I'd dump so much money into the car that can't be recovered.

If you put it back to stock and with Hondata and bolt-ons, you could have a car that ran a 13.8 and you won't be in over your head money-wise.

I'm not trying to tell you how to spend your money, but I am saying that what you put into it, don't expect to get anywhere close back out of it considering it is a salvage.

For $15K you can get a good condition 97-98 Integra Type R.

 

I say get the car to where all you have to do is drop a motor in and then decide what you wanna do drivetrain wise. It looks like you have to get a lot of parts. Looks like radiator, ac, ps, shift linkages, shifter, gauges are all gone. This alone will cost you a pretty penny. Are any of the fuel components intact?

The resale value is a whole other discussion. If you care about resale dont buy a car and mod it period...

 

It will not be a salvage title, it will be a rebuilt title. i would rather own a car that had been stripped rather than hit, besides, to put all of these aftermarket parts into a complete type-s, all of the things stripped from the car now would need to be stripped later.

 

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doesnt matter you will still have an r title no matter what happend to it.

 

im not to sure, say it costs him between 16k-19k to build this RSX. the car would have a "rebuilt title" but it would be a 2006. it would be black, which is a hot color. it would have a type r interior, including recaros, a type r motor etc. anyone who knows anything about cars would a fool not to buy that car for say 15k if it was all done out right. id say its worth sacraficing a couple grand to drive this car for a couple of years? eh?

 

if all you want is 13.8 you dont need the k20A i ran 13.6 in my rsx with a k20z1 with intake, RBC, IMG, RH, motor mounts, coilovers, K-pro, and slicks. it was only a little over 3K in mods. but if you want the K20A with similar mods to mine it think you could run like a 13.3 but if i was building a car like you are and i had a limited ammount of money i wouldnt spend the extra cash on the K20A.

 

kinda TD u have? id be interested if it was js or spoon.


for 14-16g im sure u coulda found one in the states for that price.....


Modified by JCL at 11:51 PM 1/10/2008

 

doesn't matter sell that junk it won't do **** cuz you have innovative MM's

 

what are you talking about why are innovative mm's junk?

 

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im almost sure that ntcustoms meant that the torque damper is useless because TS already bought engine mounts and they do the same thing. engine mounts + td is overkill and the TD would be used for "bling" if anyone sees it.

 

You know you COULD buy any year type S for around 16K... save some money for a few months, sell the K20 in the car, swap in a K20A and call it a day... wouldn't take much work compared to what you are in for. But if you have that much money and time, go for it.

 

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After he dumps all of that time into the car, he'll see no return for it. That's my only problem with this project.

I guess it's good if you want to use it as a learning experience, but the point of rebuilding a Rebuilt or Salvaged titled car is that you can do it much cheaper that what you could buy a good used one for.

 

ok, just to settle this little argument..1400 for the car, 5600 for the swap, 100 for the stock deck, new radiator, battery, 150 for the type r center counsel, and 100 for the type r gauges, and 1000 for recaro seats, and 400 for the rear recaros, 500 for 05-06 s wheels, 800 for labor...this puts me in the 9-10k range. i would own an 06 type-s (yes it rebuilt) with recaros and a k20a, type r interior. now, someone on here reply to this saying u wouldnt buy that car for 10-12g's? maybe more?
on another note, you loose money with any car you buy especially when u mod it, i think its a possibility that if i waited for the right buyer when i sell it i might make money or break even!

 

I think what everyone is trying to tell you is don't get in over your head.

Prettty much im sure this car is okay, but what if you do all this work and the suspension is expletiveed see what I am getting at? Im sure it's fine but you never know.

But if you budget get this car running for for say $12,000 then yeah its a good deal.

 

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Even right now I wouldn't buy a rebuilt 06 for 12K. Rebuilt titles lose resale significantly more than clean titled cars as the years pass, until you bottom out.

Plus, you have to figure in the insurance value on a rebuilt titled car. If you paid 12K, I seriously doubt you'll get this from the insurance company if you were to total it.

And can you even get a normal bank loan on a R or S titled car?

But yeah, I think the consensus is to not go overboard. If you could build it back up for 8K then you made a good buy. If 12K, then not so sure.