like the titel says, i am in the process of hanging up my street hat for the dunes, and i am interested in purchasing a san rail. I am sue most of you know the common motor sets ups consist of VW motors, suburu, or LS v8s, but the are all mounted to a VW bus style tranny with numberous different types of adapters. i have seen the odyssey motors and swear a few b series motors too, was just wondering if anyone on here knows of any one building the adapter for a h22


thanks,
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http://www.kennedyeng.com/

How do you plan on working around the fact that the h22 rotates counter clockwise, and not clockwise like the stock vw?

 

not sure, figured that i have seen some b motors with them so there has to be a way...

 

if you grab the right tranny you can flip the ring gear around in the tranny.

 

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do you know what tranny is needed with the specific ring?

 

I think almost all old vw transmissions are symmetrical, so the ring gear can be flipped. there are a few problems with just flipping the ring gear strength-wise.

 

You can get that VW tranny built with a reverse ring and pinion. BTW, an NSX drive train is excellent for a rail, including the transmission.

 

I'm pretty sure no one makes a reverse ring for any of the vw transmissions, and or early porsche....

I could be wrong tho. Where did you hear of this being done?

 

I have heard of this being done, but since i am not into early vw or sandrails i wouldnt know. There is a place local to me called Arizona transaxle exchange that specializes in early vw transaxles for sandrails you might try them there number is
602) 269-1444.

 

not too thread jack but i see all these v8 powered rails with awesome power but have never seen a 2jz powered or rb powered rail

 

pm'd

 

I've built a b-series rail. PM me if interested.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1006776

 

we've just flipped the ring gear..always worked for us

 

and no problems with putting the load on the other side of the ring gear?

Everyone says that you'd have problems, and significantly weaken it, but I've never seen anyone that has actually tried it.

 

I've had two bosses that have flipped the ring gear without issue, I have never done it myself.

 

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I've purchase two VW transaxles that were built for mid-engine cars and ran the opposite direction as stock. I thought they used a reverse R&P since that's how the builder referred to it, but perhaps they just flipped it. It was years ago, so I can't remember who built them, but it was one of the better known rail parts suppliers.

 

just flipping the ring and pinion for a mid engine setup is ok, because your still loading the ring on the same side, but when you flip it, and run an engine the opposite way the tranny was designed for, then the ring gets loaded on the other side of the teeth, and it can stress it and possibly break teeth.

like when you bend a hardened piece of steel one way, then bend it the other, it will just snap, and not bend back.

 

Ten seconds on Google found this:

http://www.transworks.biz/mendeola.html

Probably a good starting point, as they claim their reverse rotation R&P will handle high hp applications.

 

what about k series motors? clockwise or no?

 

yes k-series turn clockwise.

 

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problem solved....