i heard that you can put an intercooler from a turbo eclipse into an integra/civic. the intercooler will mount behind the fender wall so that it is unnoticeable. is this true? and performance-wise, is this good? thanks again all for all your help.

 

Yes, the DSM sidemount intercooler is small enough to fit behind the bumper cover of most any Honda. Performance wise, it really depends on your setup. Just the intercooler itself isn't going to do anything.

 

if you have the money, go with a fmic

 

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or you can put the DSM intercooler up front

 

koo, thanks for the info..

well, my plan is to sleep the car: no blow off valve, and no huge fmic. (maybe one of those fake intercoolers ppl put in front to totally sucker ppl into a race )

but, will the fender mounted ic alone be enough to cool a turbo seeing that it looks so small?

 

air to water intercooler. DO IT!


Marcus

 

You're going to want a BOV...if nothing else, just recirculate it.

 

ok schister66.

i have some questions: is a bov necessary? doesnt a wastegate do the same thing? and when you say recirculate it, what do you mean? im knew to the turbo scene so i need some schooling. thanks again for everyone's help.

 

aight scorpio, air to water.. ill look into that thanks

 

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i have some questions: is a bov necessary? doesnt a wastegate do the same thing? and when you say recirculate it, what do you mean? im knew to the turbo scene so i need some schooling. thanks again for everyone's help.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You still have a lot to learn...

<u>Wastegate</u> regulates exhaust gas therefore regulating boost pressure
<u>BOV</u> releases compressed air charge when throttle body closes...generally during shifting

and yes, you need both

 

wow, air to water seems very complicated. i see the advantages to an air to water intercooler: faster 1/4 mile times and cooler charge temperatures... but this car is daily driven so shaving a few seconds off a 1/4 mile run isnt the goal (it would be nice though), and packing ice into a water reservoir seems like it will be a hastle at times. so, would running an air to air intercooler that is fender mounted be possible or a good idea?

 

i do have so much to learn, and its aggravating when you want to learn and all you get is mixed up info ... but ic what the wastegate and the bov do now.. what do you mean when you say recirculate it?


Modified by brainglow at 5:57 PM 1/7/2008


Modified by brainglow at 5:58 PM 1/7/2008

 

an air to water IC isn't gonna shave seconds over a fmic.

 

its something i read in the air to air vs air to water thread.. still need to do more research

 

dont bother with a water to air IC...they're expensive and not great for street setups. Go with a small or black painted IC if you want a sleeper setup. Also recirculating the BOV would eliminate the sound and go with your sleeper setup.

 

ty!!! i dont know you schister66 , but im trusting you on that

 

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Eh..dont worry about it. You'll be fine. I've been on this site and seen enough setups to know a good amount about this stuff. Also, i dont think i would have been made an FI Mod without at least SOME background knowledge

 

from all my experiences with other ht members, i can tell you know a little something.

i do have more questions though:

1) a good turboed friend told me that a fender mount ic will not provide as much power as a fmic... is this true?

2) and are there any pics of what a recirculated bov looks like?

 

heres to answering my own question. hopefully this helps others as well:


recirculated bovs:

 

The purpose of an intercooler is to remove heat from the intake air added by the the turbo.

Generally speaking, the longer the intercooler core the more efficient it will be at removing the extra-heat. (Efficiency maxes out somewhere between 18-24 inches.) A taller or thicker intercooler core will allow you to cool a larger amount of air.

You also need to make sure plenty of outside airflow reaches the core.

So yes, a FMIC will be able to make more power assuming it is longer, taller, and has better access to outside air.

 

Most sidemounts are too small to support much power. If you're looking to make over ~220whp, i would go with a frontmount. As for recirculating BOVs, you dont need to worry about them on a Honda. Hondas run a MAP sensor; whereas, cars that require recirc's have a MAF system

MAP = measures air pressure
MAF = measures volume of air

 

i think he wants to recirc it so its more sleepy. i say dont recirc it cause thats half the fun is hearing the bitchin noises. but to each his own

 

the plan was to sleep my ride by recirculating the bov and installing a fendermounted ic. true, bovs do sound nice, but im more concerned with making my db8 look stock but secretly turboed. but it seems pointless to sleep my car using a fender mounted ic if it cant make more than 220 whp (my all motor setup is already pushing approx 210 whp.).

so, is it possible to use two fender mounted ics, and could this solve the power problem?

 

i found something on dual ics, but it was for a vdub... perhaps this might work.

any comments, advice, ideas?

 

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probably not gonna happen on side mounts. next best alternative is FMIC painted black.