So im doing my first ever PJ in my garage. i did my jambs and my hatch last night.

im using Omni MAE Acrylic Enamel (black, really hard to see coverage!)

All in all it went pretty well, but when i came back a few hours later to check stuff out i noticed there were some areas i didnt get 100% coverage, and also i noticed a few fish eyes (i am going to clean more next time).

so my qestion is can i lay down another coat to get complete coverage without scuffing yesterdays work?

if i need to scuff it should i scuff and repaint the entire hatch jamb?

its been about 12 hrs since i layed down the paint (and its been pretty cold)



any advice is appreciated


Modified by welfarepc at 12:46 PM 1/3/2008


Modified by welfarepc at 6:10 PM 1/3/2008

 

It varies from product to product. As far as I know with enamels you have 24hrs to spray again before scuffing. I would suggest using a grey scuff pad. Since your having problems with coverage it would lead me to believe that you might have reduced it too much.

 

i wouldn't even appy clear over base, 24hrs after my last coat of base. so yea, a grey scuff pad over the whole jam would be sufficient, then recoat 2-3x, for certainty. i think you just missed a spot. you can also spray a drier coat over the fish eyes to cover them. try it, you'll see.

 

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Its single stage so there is no clear.

 

yeah i went ahead and re-coated a few times it looks good. the fisheyes left tiny indents buts they are under a trim panel so its all good. lesson learnt.

 

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Cool

About the fish eyes, they can come from a couple things. Sorry if you already know this

-Oily/silicone reidue

-not allowing enough time to flash before spraying next coat

If you ever run into them again when sprayin just light mist some color over top of it. this will help hide them if they arent that many

 

yea mike, youre right. there is no clear. its just single stage in a jam that won't exactly be exposed 100% to the elements and become prone to delamination. i guess it all depends on the manufac. recommendations on the particular product. i still say 24 hrs is too long.

 

i think the fisheyes were from applying another coat a bit premature...

its pretty cold out and even with the heaters in the garage its still a bit cold for the paint. gotta take it nice and slow

 

Wet sand and buff the indents, good to go.

 

i would use a grey scuff pad to scratch it up. also as far as coverage, make sure the paint isnt recdued too much since you said the temperature was cold. Try using a faster reducer if possible. Also when you spray a car, what i do is spray until everything appears to be covered, THEN APPLY TWO MORE COATS... just to be 100% sure.

theres nothing like bringing out your car on a sunny day and realizing "o **** i missed these spots"

fish eyes are from silicon based products.... make sure theres no armor-all on the tires or in the place your painting.

 

fish eyes were under the plastic trim piece inside your door jambs... not a problem at all

im using Fast reducer... nothing faster is available. i saw an old school painter using some accelerator in the cold.... might give that a go

since my first try at painting ive learnt a lot. i didnt know about cross coating before... didnt ground my car, didnt adjust my gun properly (way to dry for SS)...
my paint was under 5deg C, car was a bit cold...

i cant wait to throw down another coat and look at my **** eating grin in it

 

if it is a little cold best is to keep the paint maybe in your house at room temperature, also another great idea is running out to your local department store (or next time you see them on sale somewhere) and grab your self some dual halogen spot lights on stands usually run $19.99 - $29.99 for each stand with 2 spot lights grab like 4 and keep then facing the panels you will be painting (not too close try 4 ft.) just to keep the metal warm for painting. cause the particals in the paint do seperate when cold and dont blend aswell as they would when they are warm.

the warmer the better. also with enamel you want to lay coats on light as you need to slowly lay the paint especially in your situation with the cold. you will continue to get fish eys and most likely runs aswell, the enamel doesn't dry as fast as your base would.

good luck with the project. keep up with the updates.

 

i dont have fish eyes....

 

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its pretty cold out and even with the heaters in the garage its still a bit cold for the paint. gotta take it nice and slow </TD></TR></TABLE>

im pretty sure you said you did ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

anyways hope you dont get any on the exterior of the car as you will see that more than the door jams and behind panels etc...

cant wait to see finished product. is this a project you are working on daily or just when ever you can?

 

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im pretty sure you said you did ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

cant wait to see finished product. is this a project you are working on daily or just when ever you can? </TD></TR></TABLE>

hehe true true, under the trim in the door jamb its just funny how everyone has two cents about them

the car is a weekend/project car, turbo charged sohc vtec zc.. once the paint is done its going for dyno tuning

painting is tricky thats for sure, lots of little techniques that make or break a job

i feel like im getting the hang of it tho