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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Default Is it ok to put 5w-30 in ep3?

I know the 5w-20 recommended, but it is ok to use 5w-30 since it is more common? My car is around 100k miles. thx.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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Default Re: Is it ok to put 5w-30 in ep3? (motobecane)

Gas mileage will drop a touch, but it'll work ok. I wouldn't use it if you are drive a lot in freezing temps, though.

5w30 will be better if you run higher RPMs than stock (like with a Hondata flash). This is the only time 5w30 would be my first choice--otherwise stick with 5w20.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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I use 5w30. Gas mileage did drop a bit, but it doesn't burn off near as much as the 5w20. I only have to add a bit every 1500 miles or so with the 5w30.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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Default Re: Is it ok to put 5w-30 in ep3? (motobecane)

hmmm...... i think i put 10w-30 in my dc5 last time what do you guys think about that?
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 11:34 PM
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Default Re: Is it ok to put 5w-30 in ep3? (dc5RickK20)

Go for the 5 30 for the extra heat and high RPM protection.
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Default Re: Is it ok to put 5w-30 in ep3? (motobecane)

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I will put 5w30 this time and see what the difference is on my car. The reason is my car has 100k miles. If the MPG drops noticeably I will put back 5w20 next oil change.
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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Default Re: Is it ok to put 5w-30 in ep3? (square_1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by square_1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Go for the 5 30 for the extra heat and high RPM protection.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Only in a race situation (or HPDE) or if you have extended RPMs over OEM revlimit.

Otherwise Honda would not call for 5w20 if it did not protect the motor correctly. Remember--these motors were designed for 5w20. There is no reason to deviate from this unless you really, really are doing something specific that needs it.

To the OP: Just because the majority says one thing does not mean that answer is correct for everyone.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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Default Re: Is it ok to put 5w-30 in ep3? (Todd00)

rsxs are known to burn oil... i use 5w 30 to fix that problem
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by winman517 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rsxs are known to burn oil... i use 5w 30 to fix that problem</TD></TR></TABLE>

The RSX Type S is (sometimes) known to burn oil. Also, it specifically calls for 5w30.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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Default Re: Is it ok to put 5w-30 in ep3? (motobecane)

In the final analysis: YES, it is okay to use 5W30.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 07:40 AM
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Default Re: Is it ok to put 5w-30 in ep3? (motobecane)

In the end.. it is ok. But I stick to 5w20 cuz thats recommended. My Wifes civic recommends 5w30 and I stick to that with it.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by johnclaunch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In the final analysis: YES, it is okay to use 5W30.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes it is ok, but it is not necessarily better. It would work with 5w50 too, but do you really want to do that?
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Otherwise Honda would not call for 5w20 if it did not protect the motor correctly. Remember--these motors were designed for 5w20. There is no reason to deviate from this unless you really, really are doing something specific that needs it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Alot of honda dealerships have started to use 5W-30 in the EP3's that still come in instead of the recommended 5W-20 because the thinner oil is believed to be a potential cause of the pitting of the camshafts that many members have had happen to them myself included.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by j-bird &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Alot of honda dealerships have started to use 5W-30 in the EP3's that still come in instead of the recommended 5W-20 because the thinner oil is believed to be a potential cause of the pitting of the camshafts that many members have had happen to them myself included.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I rarely deviate from Honda's recommendations, but this (the 5w-20/5w-30 issue) is the exception that makes the rule. I, too, run a 5w-30 weight oil in my EP3s. Have done it for years, since they were new. Like many others, I know that Honda began recommending 5w-20 weight oil for most of its cars beginning in 2002 in order to improve its overall "fleet average" miles-per-gallon. (It's not much of a savings -- less than a mile-per-gallon per car -- but the numbers add up.) And, for the vast majority of Honda owners, there's nothing wrong with that. However, I also noticed that Honda never changed its recommendation WRT the fleet vehicles likely to see more demanding service & higher RPMs -- Type S Acuras, S2000s, etc. That seemed like an excellent reason to stick with 5w-30.

Re the camshaft pitting issue mentioned above, I think that was a metallurgical issue isolated to relatively few engines, not a lubrication issue, but it was enough of a problem for a while that it just didn't make sense not to use a 5w-30 for the additional shear protection inherent in the heavier weight oil.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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moms car isnt honda i was reading in her car manuel that its ok 2 run a heavier weight oil in the winter because of the cold but in summer u should stick 2 recommended oil if its 5w20 use that in the summer n in the winter u can change to 5w30
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 20civic03si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">moms car isnt honda i was reading in her car manuel that its ok 2 run a heavier weight oil in the winter because of the cold but in summer u should stick 2 recommended oil if its 5w20 use that in the summer n in the winter u can change to 5w30
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You have that completely the opposite of what is true.

Thinner = winter
Thicker = summer
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