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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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Default Got spark and fuelat the rail but the fuel injectors are not firing.

I need help bad. This is a from the other site
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I went to autozone to get a noid light and all the plugs are working fine. I thought it was the injectors so I switched them with a diffrent pair and still the same thing. Nothing. I am getting great spark but no fuel. I tested the fuel injector resistor box that was fine but just be on the safe side I got a diffrent one just test it too. Still no fuel. I have checked all the grounds and cleaned them all. The engine, trans and thermostat grounds. Is there a ground that I over looked?


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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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Is the fuel pump priming?
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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Yes the fuel pump is priming and there is fuel getting to the rail and the psi is around 40.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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pop the rail off and spin the dizzy by hand(make sure its grounded) see if the injectors are firing
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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You are sure the car is getting spark?
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboZChatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are sure the car is getting spark?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah its getting great spark. I have a second set of injectors that i throw in and they are not work either. I had a noid light hooked up to the injector plugs and they all are working right. Im just out of ???
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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I tested the resistor and it was 5 ohms. I went to the junkyard and got a diffrent one. I hooked it up and the same things happen NO start. 8-O I went to autozone to buy a noid light to see if there was anything being sent to the injectors and the noid light said there were working fine. I had a secound set of injectors and I swapped them out. Still no start.
I test the injectors one more time with the noid light. The injectors were not hooked up and the car started for a sec. If I put starter fluid in the throttle body it will fire up with no problems but will not stay running. Im just running out of ideals. :evil:
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 03:35 AM
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anyone?
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 04:15 AM
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did u check the main relay?
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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Yes. i thought that was the problem so I bought a new one and it still does start. Can you have all 4 injectors go bad at once?
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Not that I know of...

Can u post the specs of your car?
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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Here are the specs
1990 Crx Hf. No rust car came AZ.
18c1 GSR Block was sleeved by Benson Performance
CP 84.5mm pistons
pistons have anti-friction side coating and ceramic top coatings
Eagle H beam rods
New type R oil pump
New Type R water pump
New Type R timing belt
Balanced and blue printed crank
B16 head
Skunk2 Pro series intake manifold
Crower valve springs with titanium retainers
1999 GSR cams
Skunk2 cam gears
Cosmetic 3 layer metal head gasket
Port and polish head and port match intake manifold
ARP Head Studs
The head was fully gone through a 3 angle valve job .It has 9.0:1 compression. Im am running obd1 set up with a p28 ecu. I did a Da brake set up on the front and back. The trans is A1.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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specs are up
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXWOLSKI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The injectors were not hooked up and the car started for a sec. :evil: </TD></TR></TABLE>

It sounds like you're being very thorough with your testing. About the only suggestion I have is TOO MUCH fuel. I've had that problem tuning standalone in my car before. If it's flooding out, it'll do that.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by twiztid17thninja &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It sounds like you're being very thorough with your testing. About the only suggestion I have is TOO MUCH fuel. I've had that problem tuning standalone in my car before. If it's flooding out, it'll do that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah that would be great if there was fuel coming from the injectors. The injectors are not firing and the psi is 40psi. But thanks for the ideal.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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get a junk yard fuel rail and try it. id eliminate the cheap stuff first
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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by not working, do you mean you pulled the rail off and tried to start the car and see if fuel is being sprayed...

or are saying you checked the wiring, which reads good, and the car won't start...

just because the fuel pump is running doesnt mean that it has the proper amount of fuel pressure to start the car...

sometimes the pressure will be too low to start the car, but if starting fluid is used the car will start and continue to run, maybe poor performance maybe not

or it could not have enough at all, or TOO MUCH

for instance, a s10 truck or blazer/jimmy, needs 63-65 psi of pressure, if its BELOW 57psi it will not start in cold weather unless starting fluid is used.


CHECK FUEL PRESSURE BEFORE AND AFTER REGULATOR IF POSSIBLE

i would check it at the filter first

trust me now, it might say NOOB , but i've been in this field of auto mechanics long enough
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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Not to sound like a NOOB but doesnt any read the stuff that is posted?
40 PSI is right. Fuel Pump Works right. Fuel at the fuel rail. Spark from the spark plugs. Throwing no codes. Cleaned and install new grounds.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboZChatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pop the rail off and spin the dizzy by hand(make sure its grounded) see if the injectors are firing</TD></TR></TABLE>
I did this today and the injectors all fired but they all fired with the dizzy off. I laid the dizzy on the engine and spined it and I got shocked. So I dont know what the means.
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