So i got stupid and handed this guy $1000 for a swap. The idea was that he was going to keep the stuff at his place, and i was going to roll my car in and have him do the work in exchange for my EX engine, or $500. Seemed kind of cheap, but okay.

Two months go by, and the engine just sits there in his garage and i get plenty of excuses... then i leave my car with him for two weeks.. he hot wires a phone charger to my radio, detatches my center console, eats a cheeseburger, and smokes a cig in the backseat.

I get tired of waiting and pick up my car. Then i pick up the engine. He says that the other parts are at a friend's house cuz he can't work on his garage, and that he'll drop them off with me tonight.. but doesn't return phone calls.

I take the engine home. it's a '94 B18B1. I paid for a 2000 B18B1. Engine looks like a 1994 too.. rust in certain locations.. corrosion on the block.. etc.

I have a piece of paper stating that he sold me a 2000 integra swap with his signature on it.
This dude is not trustworthy or together.. i know i will not get my money back.

Where do i go from here..? do i sue? leave flaming poo on his lawn?
I know his grandma, girlfriend, address, and a few of his friends.

 

expletive flaming poo

has sex with his mother, break out the windows on his car, and shoot up his front yard

 

What year is your car? check the vin of the motor and you can determine the year. Doesn't look like you're gonna get any money back. but 1000 bucks is the average price for a ls swap.

 

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has sex with his mother, break out the windows on his car, and shoot up his front yard</TD></TR></TABLE> WTF? ...pull the attorney card ...not worth you doing something dumb and getting nothing out of it...but jail time ...i hate jail

 

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and call poice too.

 

honestly i would just put the ls swap in as long as it runs ok.. 1g for a ls swap is good price.. getting legal isnt going to get u anywhere... just bite the bullet alot of people get nohting. after they hand over the cash... as for the cheesburger and cig.. ohh hell no.. time for poo and lots of it..

 

its the point ...people like that need to be shutdown or confronted hardcore by the MAN

 

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yeah true,.. then go ***** to the wall and call the cavelry.

 

It is a 94.. which is obd1.. in california, it is not legal to swap in a motor younger than your car, much less into an obd2 car.

It is an OBD1 motor, and i am told that they did not stamp VINs on them until '96.
I cleaned the grime off the engine, and did not see a VIN, nor an area where it looks like it was sanded off the block.

and throwdown.... pull the attorney card? i mean.. could i actually sue for this.. in small claims court? i won't make threats unless i know what i'm talking about so please help me out here

Frankly i feel very lucky to have my car back for one.. and at least something.. but i am still super pissed.

 

if you know where he lives then just go up to him and ask for ur shyt or some money back....


if not get some friends and take something away from him...

 

I hear that in california there is some sort of dmv form you can put in to report a bad mechanic..

what's this b18b1 block worth anyways?

 

You know sometimes u got to take one for the team. But id definantly go with the flaming poo

 

i say do a compresion check and if its good sell it for waht u paid for it and buy an obd2 motor

 

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Thats not going to do anything, if his working out of his home he wont even be claimed as a mechanic, just someone that did a favor for someone. Your just about SOL in this situation. Only thing i see you really being able to do is give him a bad name if he trys to make something for himself. Another thing that you could try is small claims. We did take someone to small claims and won, so it is possible. It really depends on the person if youll get your money or not. If there is nothing writen out that he sold you the motor he could just say he never sold it.

Also there is no engraved VIN numbers, the VINs look like this:

 

id go with poo and do sumthing to his girl then take em to court....

 

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I would think this is a good enough reason to take him to court. I mean if you do have a paper that states that he sold u a 2000 integra engine, (was he specific about the engine and/or model of the car?) and he signed it then u got a good reason to try at least.

 

pull a R kelly on his gf lol na forreal keep going by his house bug the hell out of him if that dont work get your dad in a suit and say its your lawyer with a brief case and crap and be like "sir you and my client have a contract for a deal and you havent completed your part of the deal and this is a easy case save yourself a halse and just give him his parts lol damn im good lol

 

my dad is a weed smoking janitor. i don't think he could pull the whole suit thing off. thanks though.. haha

i suppose that looking into small claims court is the best idea.
I will dig up the piece of paper i got from him tonight.
No word back from him re: getting the transmission, ecu, other parts etc.

 

how in the HELL do you get ripped off on a motor in person?

i could see if this was something on ebay or whatever, but HOW do you hand over 1000 bucks without seeing a motor?

you can take him to small claims court, but unless california is different than most states he'll be fined blahblahblah, and if you're lucky you'll see 20 bucks.

i don't get it...are you scared of this guy or something?

 

lol!

 

I agree, I don't see how you got scammed when you met with him in person.

Anyways, you can't do anything about it, your boned for sure. At least you got your car and an engine. Take is as a lesson learned and don't do anything that silly again.

 

eh.. i am not scared of the dude, just cautious. He does have a lot of large friends, who live in the country and enjoy drinking a lot.. so i am not gathering my homeboys just yet - i'd like to work this out as civilized as possible. I stopped by his house and talked to his neighbors.. i've got some information on him now. Enough to do small claims court if i need to.
I would love to see this ***** in a suit and tie.

I saw the motor in person before handing over the money. It's definetely a B18B1.

I talked to the dude on the phone.. he claims that this genuinely came out of an integra.. out of a friend's car. And that if he can match up the serial numbers or whatever, his friend will give me my money back. This is pending a visit to the DMV.

Is it possible that this is a JDM motor? i hear that JDM obd-II motors do not have VINs on them.
Also.. can you pick out an obd2/1 motor visually? ( ie: holes for extra smog equipment? )

I could use some more facts when he calls back 'after his friend visits the dmv on wensday'.

 

^^from how unreliable this guy seems, I wouldn't even trust the motor. If the motor is stolen and then installed in your car the cops DON"T CARE if you bought it legit. wait to see if he calls back wed.

sorry man, a lot of for you.

 

88-93 ls blocks will be b18a,94 and up blocks will be b18b.I think they went to obd2 in 1996.The 94 blocks dont have vins on them.I dont know if this will work,but this is what i was going to do with my daily. Use my 94 block but put a 98 obd2 head and ecu, and try to get it ref'd.The guy seems kind of shady, so im not sure I would even want to put the motor in my car.If you can find out if its legit or not, do a compression check and see if the block is in good condition.It might not be all bad.

 

corosion on the block?????? you claim that as a problem.......all blocks are corroded. i have an 06 accord with the aluminum corroding.

you're screwed. can't report him as a mechanic.


you also paid too much for a 94 LS.........you paid $1000???? its really only worth around 400-600 especiall in socal!!!!!!!

where to go from here:

1: take your ex motor back and your money back, install it yourself (what you should have done in the first place to avoid situations like this)

2: do you want this LS motor? on a bill of sale you want his drivers license number and adress too. then deal with him.............tell him to keep the $1000, you get your car, and motor back you install it yourself.........