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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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Ok, so I recently found out that the motor in my car is not a D16Y7, it's a Y8. So I did some research and found that the Y8 is a SOHC VTEC engine, is this true? And if so, how can I be sure of it?
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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yes the y8 is v-tec if u look at the left back coner of the valve cover you will see the vtec solenoid
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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Yes, its 1.6liter SOHC vtec.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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Is that it?
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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Yep, looks exactly like mine but a bit dirty, give her a nice clean and she might SCREAM V-TEC for u
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by si_motor_spt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep, looks exactly like mine but a bit dirty, give her a nice clean and she might SCREAM V-TEC for u </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, it's kind of hard to keep my car clean during the winter in South Dakota.

BTW, thanks everyone.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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So now that I know I have VTEC, what are my options here as of power? What's the best way to increase performance out of my engine?
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Turbo, nitrous -- or supercharge if you don't really care about how much of an increase you want.

Going N/A on a 1.6 liter just doesn't sound like a smart-feasible option for most people, so I'm leaving that out of the list.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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I was thinking more along the lines of a smaller gain right now that doesn't cost much as opposed to a big gain that takes a lot of time, effort and of course money. I am planning on putting a turbo kit in later but that will probably be after college.

As of right now, I wanted to build the engine up step by step so it will be ready for a turbo. Possibly a new cam and cam gear, maybe replace the headers and exhaust since I don't know what brand they are and look pretty cheap, and somewhere in there I'll buy a new fuel rail with injectors and maybe an intake manifold.

What's the best part to upgrade now?
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Has anyone heard of a D16Y8 stock in a 1997 Honda Civic CX hatch? I've checked all the engine and chassis codes and the trim details and there's nothing about a Y8 stock in a CX hatch. I checked the VIN on the engine and on the chassis and they match so I know it's not a swap. Anyone got any input on this?
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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There's a stamp you will find on the engine block next to the trans and the slave cylinder that will tell you if it is a Y7/8.

P2P is the ECU type.

Y7 has the upwards facing throttle body.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Laserjock &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's a stamp you will find on the engine block next to the trans and the slave cylinder that will tell you if it is a Y7/8.

P2P is the ECU type.

Y7 has the upwards facing throttle body.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know it's a Y8, I'm asking if anyone has ever heard of it coming stock in a CX hatch.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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No. Canada, maybe?
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maynards_ek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No. Canada, maybe?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The VIN says it was manufactured in Canada but all the trim lists I've read don't have a Y8 offered in the CX hatch. My dad figured it could be a transition model that was offered in between regular models.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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never heard of a y8 in any hatch stock

good **** for you
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rarrior23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Has anyone heard of a D16Y8 stock in a 1997 Honda Civic CX hatch? I've checked all the engine and chassis codes and the trim details and there's nothing about a Y8 stock in a CX hatch. I checked the VIN on the engine and on the chassis and they match so I know it's not a swap. Anyone got any input on this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

maybe whoever swap the motor swapped the VINs over?
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkyliteCustomz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

maybe whoever swap the motor swapped the VINs over?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The guy didn't swap it, as far as I know he didn't. I don't see why anyone would take the time to swap the VINs over though.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rarrior23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The guy didn't swap it, as far as I know he didn't. I don't see why anyone would take the time to swap the VINs over though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There was never a model like that (Y8 in a CX) release in the US. Im thinking maybe a mini-me and are you sure you checked the vin for the motor or for the trans?
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pennies_hatchie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

There was never a model like that (Y8 in a CX) release in the US. Im thinking maybe a mini-me and are you sure you checked the vin for the motor or for the trans?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I checked the VIN for the motor, it's right next to the D16Y8 stamp.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rarrior23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I know it's a Y8, I'm asking if anyone has ever heard of it coming stock in a CX hatch.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sounds like it may be a minime swap if the block VIN tags match.

Y8 heads will bolt right up to a Y7 block for a cheap/easy horsepower gain and the addition of Vtec
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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I don't think it's a mini-me though, cause the block is stamped D16Y8 so...
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rarrior23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think it's a mini-me though, cause the block is stamped D16Y8 so...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Stupid question, but have you ever tried running a carfax on it?

CX's only came with the D16Y7, so that motor is not original.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rarrior23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was thinking more along the lines of a smaller gain right now that doesn't cost much as opposed to a big gain that takes a lot of time, effort and of course money. I am planning on putting a turbo kit in later but that will probably be after college.

As of right now, I wanted to build the engine up step by step so it will be ready for a turbo. Possibly a new cam and cam gear, maybe replace the headers and exhaust since I don't know what brand they are and look pretty cheap, and somewhere in there I'll buy a new fuel rail with injectors and maybe an intake manifold.

What's the best part to upgrade now?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry for getting sidetracked on the other question.

Lemme start off by just telling you that you can pick 2 of these 3:

Cheap
Fast
Reliable

Fuel rail/injectors will give you no gains on a naturally aspirated motor, hold on off that untill you do infact turbo/supercharge the car.

Cam gears are also intended for turbo/nitrous cars, will give you 0 gains untill you are forced induction, don't buy it untill you turbo it.

A after market camshaft in my opinion is worthless unless you get your head worked on *Valve job, ported out, etc...* because your stock cam is already letting in a fair amount of air, and you need decent tuning to get the most out of a good camshaft.

CHEAP mods that give some small gains would be I/H/E, which it looks like you already have.

Personally I have a high-compression Mini-Me build with a D16Y8 head, but I have head work done, and it has been milled, but if I didn't have those things done, I would spend my money on maintenance if you haven't already (I had my head rebuilt new seals/gasket everything). A few dollars in simple tune-up/preventative maintenance will give you a faster and more reliable car, while spending money on after market parts will be risking reliability, and probably hurting your gas mileage without good tuning.
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