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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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I havnt really paid any mind to it because it hasnt been too bad for the passed week. But today i pulled out of a mall parking lot and threw a CEL right away. As soon as i started going in 1st gear it was shuttering really bad. im at 31k right now and im going to flush my tranny real soon. do you think that would fix it or something is wrong for sure?

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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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ok thats wierd. im on my way to pepboys so i can use their OBDII scanner but my CEL went away. wtf? it still shutters though.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Coilpack problems possibly. That was a big problem in VW's, and it gave the same characteristics.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cnyej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Coilpack problems possibly. That was a big problem in VW's, and it gave the same characteristics. </TD></TR></TABLE>

but that was a VW ...

so what was the code ? ordidyou not get it checkd out since it went off its been a while since i have used a scan tool but cant you still look it up it gets recorded on the pcm
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fg2si!kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

but that was a VW ...

so what was the code ? ordidyou not get it checkd out since it went off its been a while since i have used a scan tool but cant you still look it up it gets recorded on the pcm </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, and like I said it gave the same characteristics. Faulty coilpacks are common in many cars. I used VW as a reference since almost everyone has heard of the problem they were having.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Take it the dealership? I seriously have them on speed dial on my phone.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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thats what i was thinkin, ill probably drop in by tomorrow.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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keep us posted!

oh and good luck buddy!
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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update:

ran my car through an OBDII reader at work today.

P0171

System Too Lean

bank 1

intake related perhaps? if so i really need to get my CARB sticker from AEM for the dealer to even look at it.

friends also told me somethings wrong with my injectors or they could be dirty. could some simple injector clear, or octane booster solve this problem?

thanks
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 03:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nighthawk R18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">update:


System Too Lean

bank 1

friends also told me somethings wrong with my injectors or they could be dirty. could some simple injector clear, or octane booster solve this problem?

thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

'octane booster" is ot your answer. Off the shelf "booster, even though it may claim a 6 "point" increase will raise the rating from say 89 to 89.6... not what you are looking for.

Sending the injectors out for cleaning and flow testing is your best bet. Not off the shelf cleaner as you will have no idea how the injector is actualy performing. same thing with products like seafoam.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 04:36 AM
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Do you really think his injectors have a problem? On a car that's 1-2 years old? Or are you just trying to sell him a service?
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IT GUY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you really think his injectors have a problem? On a car that's 1-2 years old? Or are you just trying to sell him a service? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I didnt claim to know what his problem is/was, I was just telling him that octane "booster" is a bunch of BS. If he narrowed it down to injectors, I was letting him know about the HT pricing. Its his call.
I have seen bad injectors on newer cars, yes.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 03:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SJersey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I didnt claim to know what his problem is/was, </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SJersey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

'octane booster" is ot your answer. Off the shelf "booster, even though it may claim a 6 "point" increase will raise the rating from say 89 to 89.6... not what you are looking for.

Sending the injectors out for cleaning and flow testing is your best bet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your last post just read like you were suggesting the injectors were the problem for the OP. We are talking about a car that's still under warranty, making a problem with the injectors Honda's problem and not the OP's. Octane booster is BS, you're correct. And I don't really want to argue in typical HT fashion, I just wanted everyone to be on the same page. Thank you for the honesty about your intentions. Unfortunatly, not all vendors are so honest.

I hear good things about the shop, and appreciate the HT pricing
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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welp. i bought some MTF today from honda. green label with red stripe, thats the "updated" version right guys? i sure hope so.

in addition. the SHUTTERING IS GONE!!!! couple days ago i filled up my tank with 13gallons of Shell 91 octane. runs great. i cant wait till the new fluid gets in there. it'll be even better
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