This doenst pertain to a specific honda, but I want to kow more info on Cry-o treating metals. How mutch stronger doesn it make them? I suppose I should reasearch more to find out what cry-o treating is and what are its processes, But im sure many of you know here?

this really pertains to a trasmission gear, See i keep blwong 3rd gear, this transmission is know for being weak in the first place,let alone, add 380 WHP to it. there really arent mutch options for this transmission that im aware of, its a GM5 trans I guess thats the trans code or something) that came out of a Ford. I wonder if cry-o treating this 3rd gear will significantly help it make stronger and makes its life longer or indestructable...

 

so doesn anyone know someone in Florida or online that does a GOOD job at cryo/rem polishing?

 

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I use it on brakes for track cars, it removes microscopic surface irregularities, helping any type of situation where metal is pressing against anything else, like brakes or transmissions. I don't know if it increases the strength of the underlying metal, but it should help in a situation like a transmission with gears pushing against each other. I've noticed that brake disks/pads heat up less and last a lot longer. After I first got a set of disks treated I did a few laps at VIR , braking hard to see how they felt. Everything worked fine, and after a day of laps the disks and pads still looked like new (I could still see the machining marks on the disks). It rained the second half of the day, so I didn't push them as hard as I could on dry pavement, but it was definitely an improvement over non-cryo'd disks.

 

Cryo didn't work for me on tranny gears. Here is 13 pages of discussions about race trannies, heat treating, etc.

https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1

 

cryogen plus a pvd titanium nitride on the entire gear sets which adds about .0002-.0004" surface height it wont affect dimensional stability for close toleranced parts i never tried it though you will have to experiment i guess...

i do cryo treatments more so for cranks and piston rings never really looked into transmission components...

 

hmm, Id really lke to know if cryo will help.

See, Dont crack on me, but I have a 1998 Ford Zx2 2.0 DOHC i have proof of 352 whp, I know im making 385 WHP now. I plan on doing 400 WHP on pump and more timing ( snow meth kit) So, my point is, I dont kow anyone who makes custom gears for my trans....
Cryo seems like my only solution. unless someone else knows who can make me stronger gear(s)

 

honda transmission gears are top notch from a metallurgy stand point the only problem with their design is their angled teeth they have backlash on two different planes thats where alot of breakage occurs...also the housings are cast which does a good job for vibe resisting but not good enough sometimes with the 400 whp+ range...

cryogenics will help by tigthening the grain structure closer together which helps with wear resistance but it wont help because the casing is still factory issued casting...if someone out there has a thicker cast casing that would be the key with keeping **** together tighter...you know what im trying to get at my explanations might not make sense but i cant word it any other way...

i know ths synchros would benefit greatly from cryo treatments being made of brass/bronze...

ericks racing has custom dog box transmissions but are super pricey and without the price of a differential and are only 4 speed

 

im talking to racersteve, hopefully we can figure something out!

 

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hmm, I just found out about heat treating, anyone know what it is and how its done?

 

I've heard that cryo treatments work good to help cutting tools keep their edge.

 

Seems I need a heat treating process.