Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A?
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Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A?
A kid I know is betting me it can't be done. I say it can but I need slips for proof. 
for anyone who posts a slip.
for anyone who posts a slip.
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (Zero_Effect)
it can be done , with about 10g's or so in work , and prob not in a teg, better off in a civic . check in the civic forum , they got a few.
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (Zero_Effect)
maybe if it was LSVTEC with a turbo and some other internal goodies... slicks and stripped interior...
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (dLo GSR)
You guys are all smoking crack... 10k?
Yank the engine, but in high compression pistons, some nasty bumpsticks, balance the recripricoating (sp) assembly, raise the rev limiter, clutch, pressure plate, Z-10 bars, slicks, and gutted, and you'd be in the 13's easy.
I'd almost be willing to bet a STOCK LS gutted on slicks will run real low 15's...
Yank the engine, but in high compression pistons, some nasty bumpsticks, balance the recripricoating (sp) assembly, raise the rev limiter, clutch, pressure plate, Z-10 bars, slicks, and gutted, and you'd be in the 13's easy.
I'd almost be willing to bet a STOCK LS gutted on slicks will run real low 15's...
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (reefer_bob)
you guys are too funny......ls motor in a 1990 civic :
mods:
special cams(kg engineering)
hyper clucth
lightened flywheel
jg race valve springs
cam gears
fuel pressure regulator
BURLY *** idle!!!
and damn good *** tuning!!!!
13.89 all motor!!!! full interior, full chassis supports.....with a lil more mods, can easily be in low 13's......sorry no slips at the moment, but wanted to let yo uknow that it can be done......
mods:
special cams(kg engineering)
hyper clucth
lightened flywheel
jg race valve springs
cam gears
fuel pressure regulator
BURLY *** idle!!!
and damn good *** tuning!!!!
13.89 all motor!!!! full interior, full chassis supports.....with a lil more mods, can easily be in low 13's......sorry no slips at the moment, but wanted to let yo uknow that it can be done......
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (gokooljapan)
in a civic it can be done for a hell of alot less.
to do all motor in a teg your looking at a nice chunk of cash . trustme , been there and done that , esp if you gotta pay for labor.
to do all motor in a teg your looking at a nice chunk of cash . trustme , been there and done that , esp if you gotta pay for labor.
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (itr206)
I've heard of people hitting 13.9 with a b18b1 and a good turbo setup.
As for a stock LS w/weight reduction and slicks running a low 15, I think that's a bit optimistic. Based on other Teg setups and times that I've heard, and other cars that I've beat, mine should run 15.6 or 15.5 at sea level... I have I/H/E and full interior. I ran against a gutted LS with I/E and I beat him, which just goes to show that weight reduction isn't all it's hyped up to be. My header was more than enough to make up for his weight reduction plus the extra crap in my trunk. His 1/4 mile time at sea level should be about 15.7 or 15.6, so that's only about 0.3 seconds better than stock and that's with intake and exhaust. So, I just don't think slicks would make a big enough difference to bring a stock Teg into the low 15's.
For weight reduction to make much of a difference on a Teg, it has to be extreme, which is kinda dumb in my opinion.
As for a stock LS w/weight reduction and slicks running a low 15, I think that's a bit optimistic. Based on other Teg setups and times that I've heard, and other cars that I've beat, mine should run 15.6 or 15.5 at sea level... I have I/H/E and full interior. I ran against a gutted LS with I/E and I beat him, which just goes to show that weight reduction isn't all it's hyped up to be. My header was more than enough to make up for his weight reduction plus the extra crap in my trunk. His 1/4 mile time at sea level should be about 15.7 or 15.6, so that's only about 0.3 seconds better than stock and that's with intake and exhaust. So, I just don't think slicks would make a big enough difference to bring a stock Teg into the low 15's.
For weight reduction to make much of a difference on a Teg, it has to be extreme, which is kinda dumb in my opinion.
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (Weston)
damn, why does everyone think rs/ls's are so damn slow?? i can run constant 15.2's all friggin day in my rs with full interior, and intake, exhaust, and a chipped ecu, and a kid i know has a 97 integra ls with the drag gen3 kit, and stock internals, and not even tuned that great, and he hit a 12.6 at the track at 11 psi on full interior!!! rs/ls's do have potential!!!
IVE EATEN 3 GSR'S AND A 2000 CELICA GTS IN MY "SLOW" RS!!!!!
VTEC, HAH!
I DO , HOWEVER, HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR ITR'S THOUGH!!
[Modified by Acura_I-RS, 12:29 AM 6/29/2002]
IVE EATEN 3 GSR'S AND A 2000 CELICA GTS IN MY "SLOW" RS!!!!!
VTEC, HAH!
I DO , HOWEVER, HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR ITR'S THOUGH!!
[Modified by Acura_I-RS, 12:29 AM 6/29/2002]
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (Zero_Effect)
It can be done real easy . crower 405 race cams and a p+p head and the normal h-e-i fule and ecu tuning and gsr tranny. or you could gut a rs with 404 cams ecu gsr tranny tuning and a good h-e-i and do it also.out here in la there are a lot of fast ls tegs.
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (PHaT ls-s)
which just goes to show that weight reduction isn't all it's hyped up to be
You should think about what's between the seat and the steering wheel before you talk about the car.
[Modified by StyleTEG, 1:03 AM 6/29/2002]
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (Weston)
I just don't think slicks would make a big enough difference to bring a stock Teg into the low 15's.
For weight reduction to make much of a difference on a Teg, it has to be extreme, which is kinda dumb in my opinion.
For weight reduction to make much of a difference on a Teg, it has to be extreme, which is kinda dumb in my opinion.
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (Hatchy-Ownzjo0)
its called a civic hatch hybrid :D
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (Weston)
People are tellin me it cant be done so I have to produce slips in like 1 month to show it can. Heres my setup, at sea level, about 80 degrees track temp, prob falk arzenis for tires, maybe somethin more.
93 Integra LS, no carpet, no cruise control, no power steering, no sound deaening, no firewall, no interior panels, no passenger seat, no back seat, no spare tire, no jack, no rear windshield wiper.
JDM b18b, JDM ITR Pistons (11:1 compression), (Maybe eagle rods), crower 403's, crower retainers, crower dual coil valvesprings, Chipped ECU 8500rpm redline, AEM Cold air intake, N1 exhaust, JDM ITR header, Timing advance, high flow cat, AEM FPR, Skunk2 Camgears, ES motor mount inserts, portmatched intake manifold, bored out throttle body, port and polish head, 3 angle valvejob, NGK Iridium sparkplugs, and the rest is suspension work.
93 Integra LS, no carpet, no cruise control, no power steering, no sound deaening, no firewall, no interior panels, no passenger seat, no back seat, no spare tire, no jack, no rear windshield wiper.
JDM b18b, JDM ITR Pistons (11:1 compression), (Maybe eagle rods), crower 403's, crower retainers, crower dual coil valvesprings, Chipped ECU 8500rpm redline, AEM Cold air intake, N1 exhaust, JDM ITR header, Timing advance, high flow cat, AEM FPR, Skunk2 Camgears, ES motor mount inserts, portmatched intake manifold, bored out throttle body, port and polish head, 3 angle valvejob, NGK Iridium sparkplugs, and the rest is suspension work.
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (Zero_Effect)
It can be done
The honda performance FAQ talks about a B18B Integra that got 13 ET's
http://customimport.simplisticmedia..../hondafaq.html
The honda performance FAQ talks about a B18B Integra that got 13 ET's
http://customimport.simplisticmedia..../hondafaq.html
We built a 95 LS with a ported head (DPR), RC monster-bore T-body
(66 or 68mm), Longer valves (so that rocker geometry is correct with
reground cams), adjustable cam gears, and some big cams. The
head was milled and the engine runs at about 10:1 compression.
He also has DC headers, Thermal exhaust, iceman intake, no cat.
We tried 3 different cam sets, a medium grind from DPR that made 153 hp
at the wheels, but still idled good (all dyno numbers are from a Dynojet
dyno), a set of JG 301s that made 171 hp to the wheels, but we had to increase
fuel pressure and the idle sucked. The last set was the newer Gude cams
and they made 174 hp to the wheel, and their idle sucked too. Actually,
it sounds kinda cool, like blup, ba, bup-bup, bup, bup, bup-ba. This
particular car runs mid 13s on slicks. He ran back to back 13.55s at 98+
mph with some weight reduction. If you consider a 14% loss of power through the
drivetrain, this particular B18B makes around 202 hp at the flywheel.
(his rpm limit was removed, and peak power is about 7500 rpm.
Torque was about 138 or 139 to the wheels (161 ft lbs to the flywheel).
(66 or 68mm), Longer valves (so that rocker geometry is correct with
reground cams), adjustable cam gears, and some big cams. The
head was milled and the engine runs at about 10:1 compression.
He also has DC headers, Thermal exhaust, iceman intake, no cat.
We tried 3 different cam sets, a medium grind from DPR that made 153 hp
at the wheels, but still idled good (all dyno numbers are from a Dynojet
dyno), a set of JG 301s that made 171 hp to the wheels, but we had to increase
fuel pressure and the idle sucked. The last set was the newer Gude cams
and they made 174 hp to the wheel, and their idle sucked too. Actually,
it sounds kinda cool, like blup, ba, bup-bup, bup, bup, bup-ba. This
particular car runs mid 13s on slicks. He ran back to back 13.55s at 98+
mph with some weight reduction. If you consider a 14% loss of power through the
drivetrain, this particular B18B makes around 202 hp at the flywheel.
(his rpm limit was removed, and peak power is about 7500 rpm.
Torque was about 138 or 139 to the wheels (161 ft lbs to the flywheel).
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (StyleTEG)
And they could have ran some seriously better parts then stuff such as a DC header if they were goin for all out power too. They could have also got better then 10:1 compression which means they could have be damn scary. I was estimating 168 to the wheels with my setup, but I should get more if thats what they got running that setup.
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (Rob_The_Ninja)
DPR had an NA LS that was running 12s.
This was years ago.
I believe the total cost to build the car was
around $3000-3500.
I think LS are often underrated because
the word VTEC is the popular thing..the fade.
Really, the only difference is cam lift and cam timing.
This can be fixed with a nice set of 404s and cam gears.
You can spank GSRs all day with this setup and some tuning.
This was years ago.
I believe the total cost to build the car was
around $3000-3500.
I think LS are often underrated because
the word VTEC is the popular thing..the fade.
Really, the only difference is cam lift and cam timing.
This can be fixed with a nice set of 404s and cam gears.
You can spank GSRs all day with this setup and some tuning.
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (gokooljapan)
you guys are too funny......ls motor in a 1990 civic :
mods:
special cams(kg engineering)
hyper clucth
lightened flywheel
jg race valve springs
cam gears
fuel pressure regulator
BURLY *** idle!!!
and damn good *** tuning!!!!
13.89 all motor!!!! full interior, full chassis supports.....with a lil more mods, can easily be in low 13's......sorry no slips at the moment, but wanted to let yo uknow that it can be done......
mods:
special cams(kg engineering)
hyper clucth
lightened flywheel
jg race valve springs
cam gears
fuel pressure regulator
BURLY *** idle!!!
and damn good *** tuning!!!!
13.89 all motor!!!! full interior, full chassis supports.....with a lil more mods, can easily be in low 13's......sorry no slips at the moment, but wanted to let yo uknow that it can be done......
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (B-series Assassin)
On a serious note, there's this yellow LS around here that's "supposedly" supposed to run 13.9 or lower all motor. I dont doubt it at all. I'm not giving out all the mods I heard, but he has a Type R transmission which should is helping him out a LOT.
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (Rob_The_Ninja)
get some high compression pistons, some nice cams, cam gears, side draft DCOE 45mm carbs, a nice header, tuning, clutch, flywheel,
and make him pay for the swap when he loses his bet
and make him pay for the swap when he loses his bet
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Re: Who here has a b18b that run's 13's or faster N/A? (IM ALL SHO)
i've had a gsr motor with jun3s, 12:1, skunk2 im, and jdm header....
and i like driving my torquey i/h/e LS motor a LOT more. Having to rev to 9k gets really old...
Driving my turbo LS motor is even more fun
Just my $.02
and i like driving my torquey i/h/e LS motor a LOT more. Having to rev to 9k gets really old...
Driving my turbo LS motor is even more fun
Just my $.02
