I'm considering trading in my Elite in for a new scooter. It's got 3500 hard miles on it and it's getting kind of ragged, it leaks oil from the differential and kind of clatters when it warms up. I figured I could get about $950 trade in on it, so either the Zuma or C3 would require about $1100 cash from me.

Zuma: I've never owned a 2 stroke anything, so not really sure what to expect. It's also kind of an old design, but I think there is a good amount of people modding these?

C3: Brand new last year, fuel injected. Kind of funky looking though, so I don't know.

Thoughts?

 

Prices are backwards.

 

The C3 is a great scooter (work at a Yamaha dealer) and is very durable. There is a kid who recently bought one and dropped the damn thing a few times already, and the damage is minimal. Two-strokes require more maintenance than a four-stroke, although one could argue they are more fun (two-stroke).

My opinion? the C3.

 

Zuma. Anyone that recommends a 4 stroke 50 over a 2 stroke has been bumped in the head.

 

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I couldn't agree more. I LOVE my Zuma and wouldn't consider a 4 stroke 50cc after riding a 2 stroke. The difference in acceleration is crazy when both are stock. Zuma's are very mod friendly too

There is no way you'd have as much fun on a C3 as you would on a Zuma. A good friend of mine bought an '07 Honda Metropolitan, which looks to be pretty comparable to the C3. My Zuma walks away from it and I weigh 30lbs more than he does. Plus the Zuma takes jumps all day long too. Try that on a C3

 

Zuma has my vote. I dont own one but my buddy has one and for a 50cc, the fun factor is way high. Its zippy, handles people riding it like mad men and women on an almost daily basis and is cheap to work on.

 

4-Stroke

 

Is 50 the most cc's for a scooter in america? How are chinese scooter dealerships in your area? From close friends experience with them, they seem to be a good bang for the buck, 150cc and they will cruise nicely around town.

Check out http://www.umamerica.com/site/usa/index.html

 

Zuma. Mine had nearly 8k on the original motor, just filled it up and rode the hell out of it. Never had a problem, just a great scooter. If I ever get another, it will be a Zuma. There was never a path or bicycle trail it wasn't up for going down. Then I got a job far away, stopped riding it, bought a car and traded in my Zuma for a bicycle.

 

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Check out http://www.umamerica.com/site/usa/index.html </TD></TR></TABLE>

Definately not, because in my state, if the bike is 50cc or less, then you dont need a license.

so Im sure there are bigger scooters but I have no experience with them.

Although I do want to get one sometime after I get a nice sportbike.

 

There's no Chinese stuff dealerships here, and I don't really like there stuff anyways. There's a small Yamaha dealership a mile from my house.

 

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Check out http://www.umamerica.com/site/usa/index.html

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UM isn't chinese, they contracted with Hyosung to sell their products under their name. Hyosung is South Korean and did design and production work with Suzuki for quite a while before branching out and selling their own bikes.

I can tell you from experience that their products are worth a look, and their warranty is pretty much unmatched (at least on their motorcycles). You might consider taking one of their scooters for a test ride if there's a dealer somewhere near you.


But I voted Zuma.

 

I believe the Kawi dealer in town had a few of those a year or two ago. Maybe I will go check it out.

 

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UM isn't chinese, they contracted with Hyosung to sell their products under their name. Hyosung is South Korean and did design and production work with Suzuki for quite a while before branching out and selling their own bikes.

I can tell you from experience that their products are worth a look, and their warranty is pretty much unmatched (at least on their motorcycles). You might consider taking one of their scooters for a test ride if there's a dealer somewhere near you.


But I voted Zuma.</TD></TR></TABLE>

From my experience I can say that their scooters, as with the Fastwind 220R, DSF/SMF200 are chinese bikes. It's the VS2 250R and 650R that are just a Hyo Comet with different graphics.

The Matrix 150cc is one of the most popular scooters in Venezuela. There has been many reports of people riding through the country in them. Many people in here have them as their only vehicle and go anywhere with them, they seem to hold great and much cheaper than a similar JDM one. I would say take a look into them.

 

Get a Ruckus.

I just bought an 08 and I love it.

 

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A Zuma is twice the scooter that a Ruckus is.

 

For two grand this is the *new scooter I'd pick. Used is another thing to think about of course. http://www.strmotorsports.com/....html

If you're talking cc for cc of course the two stroke comes out on top.. and with a big bore kit zumas can move pretty well.

 

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Turns out he had one 2006 UM Matrix 150 left, and the price was only $1500! So, I jumped on it and got that. I only had to fork out $300 with my trade. I'm going to remove all the stickers and paint a few parts of it flat black then post some pics. This thing is a beast compared to my Elite!

 

Nice pickup. IMO 125 to 200 is the sweet spot for a small maneuverable scooter. Bigger and you might as well get a motorcycle. Smaller and uhg.. you feel like you'll get run over.

 

Too bad you're so far, I'd sell you my Aprilia SR50 Thinking about getting rid of it to get a mountain bike since I barely ride the thing.

 

hmmm. Not really feeling this new scooter.

The build quality kinda sucks, and the last two days the battery has been near dead for some reason. The dealer told me I have to trickle charge it to full capacity because the scooter only charges the battery enough to keep it where it is, and doesn't have the extra capacity to fully charge the battery. I'm going to get a battery tender and charge it up, and if that don't work... trade.

The extra power is great though, it gets up to 45 mph no problem, which is plenty for what I need it for. Maybe I would trade it in on a Vino 125, if they weren't so ugly lol.

 

SR50 ftw

 

Will a Zuma keep up with a Vino 125 you think?

I wish Yamaha stil made the Riva 125.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The_Head &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Will a Zuma keep up with a Vino 125 you think?

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New 4-stroke Vino...I would think the Zuma would get up and go faster but the Vino would kill it mid to top end.
Older 2-stroke Vino would kill a Zuma.

 

I never knew they made a 2 stroke Vino.

I want the 125 cc 4 stroke engine, I don't want the "Vespa" look.