Wilwood or AP racing Big brake kit
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From: DICKIES & FLIP FLOPS, FL
Anyone have experince with these two? Which performs better? I currently have a uninstalled Wilwood kit but was just expossed to AP racing and wanted to get advice from people who have these kits. It will be on my street car but the car will see some track time. Let me know your opinions. Thanks alot.
Which Wilwood kit? And what is the applicatio/use?
I have the dynalite calipers on my HPDE car. Fairly low power. They have held up quite well, and braking performance is good. I have read of others having trouble with the dynalites flexing in higher power applications.
I have no experience with AP Racing, personally, but have heard good things from friends.
Keep in mind that the Wilwoods are not sealed(at least the dynalites aren't), which means regular maintenance is a must. The calipers should be considered "wear-items", but given their low cost, replacing them is not a big deal.
Sounds like Wilwood would be fine for a street application that seems some track use... but others may have stronger opinions.
I have the dynalite calipers on my HPDE car. Fairly low power. They have held up quite well, and braking performance is good. I have read of others having trouble with the dynalites flexing in higher power applications.
I have no experience with AP Racing, personally, but have heard good things from friends.
Keep in mind that the Wilwoods are not sealed(at least the dynalites aren't), which means regular maintenance is a must. The calipers should be considered "wear-items", but given their low cost, replacing them is not a big deal.
Sounds like Wilwood would be fine for a street application that seems some track use... but others may have stronger opinions.
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From: DICKIES & FLIP FLOPS, FL
I have dynalites as well. The car they will be going on is my EG and I really want to get into HPDE but not sure when I'll have time. Yeah I heard about the cleaning of the Wilwoods today so even on a daily driver it seems like it would be a PITA.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHCter »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">AP is good, but take a look at Wilwoods racing history. They have been in everything. And their calipers are totally rebuildable. That's one reason i have Wilwoods on my car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are AP calipers not rebuildable?
Are AP calipers not rebuildable?
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depends on conditions of use. use extensively on dirty roads (or off-road) would likely necessitate more frequent rebuilding than sealed calipers in same circumstances.
i've heard that Wilwood now offers sealed calipers, but you said that you had Dynalites, already.
i've heard that Wilwood now offers sealed calipers, but you said that you had Dynalites, already.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slofu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all of the ALMS, F1, IRL, etc. teams use Wilwood brakes; no one uses AP Racing brakes
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i know alot of the teams in Super GT/JGTC useto run AP racing, dont know about now though.
</TD></TR></TABLE>i know alot of the teams in Super GT/JGTC useto run AP racing, dont know about now though.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slofu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all of the ALMS, F1, IRL, etc. teams use Wilwood brakes; no one uses AP Racing brakes
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I hope people interpret the sarcasm in this post. AP, Brembo, Performance Friction FTW.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I hope people interpret the sarcasm in this post. AP, Brembo, Performance Friction FTW.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chef Andre »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was told that since they are not sealed, they require being rebuilt alot more then other calipers. I sthis true?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I already stated that this was true.
The forged Dynalites are great if you are on a budget. If you have a little extra $ to throw around, the forged Superlite calipers are worth looking at. I do believe they have dust seals.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MSchu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stay away form the billet dynas for heavy RR use and go with the forged units if you need to save money.... other wise Alcon or AP lockheed</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree...The first set of Wilwoods I had were the standard billets. The forged Dynalite calipers are much more confidence inspiring than the billet units.
I already stated that this was true.
The forged Dynalites are great if you are on a budget. If you have a little extra $ to throw around, the forged Superlite calipers are worth looking at. I do believe they have dust seals.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MSchu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stay away form the billet dynas for heavy RR use and go with the forged units if you need to save money.... other wise Alcon or AP lockheed</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree...The first set of Wilwoods I had were the standard billets. The forged Dynalite calipers are much more confidence inspiring than the billet units.
My buddy had Wilwoods on his civic and the rotors warped really easily. Over the couple of years he had them he did about 4 brake jobs once the vibration would start. He has since switched to Baer brakes as the rotor is much thicker.
I personally have had the Baer front track kit on my civic for 4 years and never had a problem. That's the reason why my friend switched from Wilwood to Baer, since he was having all kinds of problems and I wasn't. My buddy is also an excellent Honda/Acura mechanic, so it wasn't his ability, just the equipment he was working with.
Being that the Wilwood kit uses a 4-piston vs. the Baer 2-piston, you can fit a much thicker rotor in there. Of course, if you like servicing your rotors, go for the Wilwood kit.
I personally have had the Baer front track kit on my civic for 4 years and never had a problem. That's the reason why my friend switched from Wilwood to Baer, since he was having all kinds of problems and I wasn't. My buddy is also an excellent Honda/Acura mechanic, so it wasn't his ability, just the equipment he was working with.
Being that the Wilwood kit uses a 4-piston vs. the Baer 2-piston, you can fit a much thicker rotor in there. Of course, if you like servicing your rotors, go for the Wilwood kit.
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