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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 05:05 AM
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im planing on making some adjustable rear toe links for my hatch but i was wondering where i would be able to but the rod ends/hemi joints also what are some opinions on the solid trailing arm bushings from energy suspension TIA
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 05:29 AM
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"Hay you gotta Hemi thar in your suspension boy?" lol

sorry had to, they're called heim joints, not hemi.

But anyway, I would not recommend doing either of those things you mentioned. The reason for not doing either the toe compensator arms or the solid trailing arm bushings is that the rear suspension is designed to move in a certain way, which is determined by the lengths of the lower and upper control arms and the toe compensator arm, and all of this causes the trailing arm to move at certain angles and pivot around the big trailing arm bushing.

By using adjustable toe compensator arms, you will inevitably end up with different lengths for the arms on each side of the car. This will cause the trailing arm on each side of the car to move at different angles and could cause questionable handling characteristics.

Then you have the trailing arm bushing itself. That has to have a certain amount of movement to work properly. A solid bushing, or even a polyurethane bushing, will limit this movement and bind up.

There is a thread in there where a guy replaced his Energy Suspension rear trailing arm bushings with Mugen hard rubber bushings, and as a result was able to push the car much harder around the track.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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toe links- Buy a set that is already made. Only reason i would make a one off kit would be because you have accesses to wholesale cost on the rod ends, and accesses to a machine shop that will make you some spacers for the bolts. If a normal joe blow were to sit down and price this out it would probably be $250-$300 dollars. There are some kits out there that are around that price (still a better deal cause you don't have to deal with order/waiting/machine time/waiting/**** goes wrong) and there are some cheaper, around the 150-200 dollar mark. Also the length of the adjust actually effect the toe curve, and although it is not a lot, i would not suggest messing with it, unless you know what you are changing.

As far the trailing arm bushing, the ES stuff is crap IMO. Search for a thread by "Ekasey" in the RR/AX forum, he complied a list of all the spherical parts.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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Yes, a spherical bushing is an option for the trailing arm, but probably not a good idea for a street car. Spherical bearings tend to have a shorter life than rubber, especially when used on a daily-driven vehicle exposed to the elements.
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