Well i'm picking up a car tomorrow night that is even more rare in the U.S. than the ITR.http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...&car_year=2002 While negotiating the price, i was debating with the owner over what kind of premium over blue-book value that a rare car actually deserves. I ended up paying over blue-book, but not the price listed. I'm feeling like the ITR is the only car built within the last 15 which deserves such a premium, but i guess it's all supply and demand.
The ITR was an iconic car which started a movement in the industry and changed the way car companies thought, and eventually the way they designed and built their cars. It also spawned so many imitators that it's comical. Also, at the time there was no other car quite like it, and it was gawked at by others when seen on the road, and still is. What that car achieved in racing, and what it achievd in just the whole package as a sports-car is legendary. The handling, the brakes, the raw thrills one can squeeze from this front-drive car with a $23,000 price is something that doesn't come along often in an automobile. Maybe i'm giving it too much credit, but i truly believe that it is a more important car than other rare cars such as the one i'm picking up. Most here would probly agree with me but does anyone think i'm wrong?

 

I'm sorry about the autotrader link..If you wanna see the car, just cut and paste the URL..Don't know why i can't link it..

 

10 year old 23K car made by Honda of which THOUSANDS of examples were made.

nah...

 

Not worth over book value? I think it is..I don't even know if there is a "book-value"

 

there is book value...nada for a 2001 is like 11-13k...

97 itr's are 7-8k...

 

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97 itr's are 7-8k...

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Yeah, and i'd pay 15 for a low-mileage 97ITR...if i was in the hunt for one...

 

I dont want to start a huge debate... but, I am curious as to why you chose the bimmer over say a S2000?

 

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I already had an S2K

 

I honestly don't see anything special about that m roadster.

 

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the bmw is a lot faster, and it probably handles just as well

 

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or rare. I see tons of them all over the place. Both with the original and updated motor.

 

Nice choice. The s54 M roady's a bit more rare than the older ones with the e36 m3 motor; OP's has a 315hp e46 motor under the hood. The main advantage these cars have over a s2000 is torque. My older coupe has ~75ft/lbs more tq than an s2000 and that is with the older, sissier e36 m3 motor. Post up photos, I'd love to see it! Almost ended up with a roadster but had to get a coupe so the dog could come with...

 

My buddy had an M Coupe , its a nice car for sure , but ITR &gt;M Coupe any day IMHO

But still a nice ride

 

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nothing i can do about it...it sucks because you cant get a loan for 16-19k that these people are asking...

 

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You're probly seeing the older ones like .Ash said..Not easy to tell them apart except for the massive rear wheel/tire combo..Only 1,600 M roadsters with the S54 motor were built for the U.S...Believe it or not, many were stolen, and as usual, many were lost to accidents..Probably about 1,000 left..

BTW, just got back from picking up the car in Jersey...Sweet little car with tons of torque..Very easy to kick out the ***-end though..Until i know the cars limits i'll be glad for the computer interceding and saving me from a snow-bank....

 

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You're probly seeing the older ones like .Ash said..Not easy to tell them apart except for the massive rear wheel/tire combo..Only 1,600 M roadsters with the S54 motor were built for the U.S...Believe it or not, many were stolen, and as usual, many were lost to accidents..Probably about 1,000 left..

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I'm a long time BMW guy as well. I see lots of both, but like I said the new motor ones are more rare.

 

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if we were to bump up the 15 years to 20 the Grand National GNX comes to mind......you'll pay upwards of 30k these days. I'd love to have one personally.........

 

^ Awesome car, but not quite the well rounded machine that the Integra Type-R/S2000/M-Series are.

A friend of mine had a Grand National with 800whp, the thing moved.

 

Yeah, GNX = drag racer. The rest of these things can actually turn. I love M roadsters and M coupes, but I don't consider either of them "rare" regardless of what engine is under the hood.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stinkycheezmonky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, GNX = drag racer. The rest of these things can actually turn. I love M roadsters and M coupes, but I don't consider either of them "rare" regardless of what engine is under the hood.
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In defense of my coupe, I'd say ~2870 examples over 4 years is rare. As for the roady, well there are a bit more of them...

 

Alright, I'll concede that the coupes at least are rare. They are my favorite too...

 

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funny, its the other way around here

if you can find an M-roadster for sale over here you'd be lucky

 

That's the British for you

 

too much rain

 

agree....I'd like to own a stoplight-to-stoplight type car though. I expect my R would still be more fun but putting the macho men driving red corvettes and mustang GT's to shame would be very satisfying.