Been looking into a MSD Ignition setup for my build. i know alot of people say stock is just fine. i had bad luck with stock dizzy's in my all motor days. figured i would give MSD a shot. Tuning with S300 so not sure if that will be a issue at all.

I seen that past threads alot of people were having issues with
1. Rotors coming loose
2. Water getting into the dizzy and driver
3. Code 8

Just wondering if MSD has fixed these issues yet or if they are still around. i looked through the huge thread that Tony the Tiger made last year. but that was over a year ago so maybe somethings have changed.

SO how are people enjoying there MSD Pro dizzy setups?

 

In the first month of having the dizzy, I lost one of the distributor cap bolts, and both rotor screws were loose and the rotor wobbled around, but with the large contacts, I didn't have any misfire issues. I put a bit of loctite onto the rotor screws, and the cap bolts and everythnig has been great since. no problems here other then that first month.

 

i don't run run, but my friends rotor also came loose. he loves the dizzy otherwise, idle's alot smoother and has great response.

 

why did u have so many problems with stock dizzys they seem to work fine for alot of people.

 

i have heard alot of bad stuff rotors comeing off the part that goes in the camshaft broke off alot of bad things

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by quicksilver1689 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why did u have so many problems with stock dizzys they seem to work fine for alot of people. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sometimes there are no problems at all, but there is harm with getting a better ignition system that gives you better power, response and fuel economy at the same time.

I am sure your stock Honda engine has no problems, but you've decided to put a turbo on there anyways

 

My MSD dizzy just took a crap on me. I'm gonna send it in for warranty. I don't know what went wrong with it. I have had it for about 8 months now and I hardly drive the car. I might have put like 600 miles on the car.

Rahim

 

whats the diff. between the msd dist and a oem dist. with lets say a digital 6 hooked up?

EDIT: found my answer on one of Tony's old posts

 

i pulledy mine apart and loctited everything. havent had any issues. using an aem ems and the signals are perfect all the way to 11k at 39 psi.


Modified by Jared at 11:48 PM 12/15/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96cxt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My MSD dizzy just took a crap on me. I'm gonna send it in for warranty. I don't know what went wrong with it. I have had it for about 8 months now and I hardly drive the car. I might have put like 600 miles on the car.

Rahim</TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you taken the cap off? Prolly same issues as eveyrone witht he rotor coming loose lol

 

Also, do any uses have problems with RPM pickup when on the dyno? When we were dynoing my car, unless under some kind of load, the dyno pickup couldn't pick it up properly and would read 30,000+rpm, specially at idle We had to move the pickup around and eventually found ia random spot on the wire near the plug that worked well.

 

so some good some bad like usual with the MSD. is anyone running a box with the distributor setup? if so what would be the best for our applications?

 

Aside from the o-ring leaking mine's been a-ok.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tchleung &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, do any uses have problems with RPM pickup when on the dyno? When we were dynoing my car, unless under some kind of load, the dyno pickup couldn't pick it up properly and would read 30,000+rpm, specially at idle We had to move the pickup around and eventually found ia random spot on the wire near the plug that worked well. </TD></TR></TABLE>

just dont use the spark plug wire for dyno pickup. they are sketchy at best. use the coil signal wire.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmotor89hf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Aside from the o-ring leaking mine's been a-ok.</TD></TR></TABLE>

first ive heard of O-ring problems with the pro unit

 

do not even get my started on the MSD dizzy.

 

You might as well get started since this is a thread asking about the MSD pro dist.

 

common i know there has to be more people running this setup

 

my rotor has come of three times even with loctite and its a pain to get replacement parts. long story short im not very happy with this product

 

Either the US guys are getting shafted, or I was lucky every time. No problem with mine since day one, and I consider my MSD pro-billet under extreme conditions; 9500PM redline, frequent road course track driving, and obviously daily driven kms. I also drive this car for winter too. My many customers with the MSD unit didn't have any problems as well.

So far, it has been 1 year and 8 months on the MSD Pro Billet and around 20000 miles. I actually bought an extra coil driver just in case, but never needed it yet

One time I swapped back to the OEM Honda dizzy for trouble shooting, and damn, my car ran like a bag of **** in comparison. Stock ignition = weaksauce. Above 9000RPM, but car ran so rough on the factory dizzy.

 

it doesn't seem to like the 11000rpm shift on my car. i think the rotor screw mounting point doesn't have enough surface to hold the treads

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bob menuts &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it doesn't seem to like the 11000rpm shift on my car. i think the rotor screw mounting point doesn't have enough surface to hold the treads </TD></TR></TABLE>

DAMN and i thought 9800 shifts were extreme..lol

 

i ran one when they first came 2yrs ago and loved it car idled better and seemed smoother.i drove on it everyday and was great till the first pin issue.i made my own replacement pin and it was great after that.then the new season started and i bought a new one and had the rotor screws come loose and sheared a pin,fixed all that.went for a retune and raised the shift limit to 10000rpm and that car would missfire in that range.yank it put a stock one back and missfire gone.
everyone must be different
i say if its a street car good thing if a track stay stock or t1cam trigger

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bob menuts &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it doesn't seem to like the 11000rpm shift on my car. i think the rotor screw mounting point doesn't have enough surface to hold the treads </TD></TR></TABLE>

I already thread locked the rotor screw, although mine never came loose or any signs of coming loose when I had it in the car for a few months. You should search for one of my early MSD Pro billet threads which contains lots of into from other members with quite a number of guys running into a number of problems... There are procedures you should take while installing the dizzy (basically checking for loose screws)

My stock ignition worked okay at 9500 RPM level, but once I shoved to 5th gear, the stock dizzy didn't like the overdriven load when approaching 160-170 mph. I also had to keep all OEM components (coil, ignitor, rotor) absolutely mint. After one oil change, the car will start lightly misfiring as usual, indicating a "tune up needed"..lol 10.5:1 CR, ITB's and water injection needs quite a bit of spark to keep up.

 

Works fine with AEM EMS. Like Jared said. Clean signals