Alignement - What's Adjustable?
On an '07 Accord. Just toe, or is camber or caster adjustable also?
Modified by Bravenrace at 10:28 AM 12/12/2007
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Modified by Bravenrace at 2:26 PM 12/12/2007
You cannot adjust the caster. You cannot adjust the camber unless you want to change the height of the vehicle or install adjusters.
If you are making changes to the suspension, the single biggest thing to want to make sure you do is to get a good, decent (and likely expensive) four wheel laser alignment.
Most complaints after changing suspensions is due to the total overall thrust going wrong so that the front alignment and rear alignment are fighting each other, so the car has a slightly unstable feeling at speed that gets worse as the speed increases, so that from about 140 and up you will feel completely unsafe.
A good laser alignment technician needs to work on your car after you make a suspension change.
Camber is not an issue with wear as long as the toe and total overall thrust is correct. You would have to go over 3 degress of camber before there would be any wear due only to the camber.
If you are making changes to the suspension, the single biggest thing to want to make sure you do is to get a good, decent (and likely expensive) four wheel laser alignment.
Most complaints after changing suspensions is due to the total overall thrust going wrong so that the front alignment and rear alignment are fighting each other, so the car has a slightly unstable feeling at speed that gets worse as the speed increases, so that from about 140 and up you will feel completely unsafe.
A good laser alignment technician needs to work on your car after you make a suspension change.
Camber is not an issue with wear as long as the toe and total overall thrust is correct. You would have to go over 3 degress of camber before there would be any wear due only to the camber.
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Why?
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Many alignment folks unaccustomed to Hondas will recommend a camber kit for the rear because they don't like that much negative camber when the car is lowered.
For example, the OEM HFP Honda suspension on the Accord will give about 2 degrees of negative camber on the rear. It doesn't hurt at all as long as the car's aligned properly, but people accustomed to other kinds of cars panic when they see it.
Why?
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Many alignment folks unaccustomed to Hondas will recommend a camber kit for the rear because they don't like that much negative camber when the car is lowered.
For example, the OEM HFP Honda suspension on the Accord will give about 2 degrees of negative camber on the rear. It doesn't hurt at all as long as the car's aligned properly, but people accustomed to other kinds of cars panic when they see it.
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I haven't put gauges on it yet, but my coupe seems to have a lot of positive camber in the front, which is strange considering that that would just amplify the tendency front wheel drive cars already have for understeer. Maybe it's not positive camber, but just less negative camber? I'll find out here soon, but it sure looks wrong compared to the rear.
The real reason I asked the original question was two fold. Mainly, I find my car to be overly numb on-center, and thought I could help that condition by adding some caster. The other reason is that I want to lower just the front about an inch so the wheel gap is more like the rear. This is my daily driver in northern Ohio, so I don't want to lower the whole car, but front the side my front end looks jacked up. So I wanted to know what was adjustable in case I needed to adjust it after lowering it.
On a related subject, does anyone know the details of TSB 06-068 JAN 07?
The real reason I asked the original question was two fold. Mainly, I find my car to be overly numb on-center, and thought I could help that condition by adding some caster. The other reason is that I want to lower just the front about an inch so the wheel gap is more like the rear. This is my daily driver in northern Ohio, so I don't want to lower the whole car, but front the side my front end looks jacked up. So I wanted to know what was adjustable in case I needed to adjust it after lowering it.
On a related subject, does anyone know the details of TSB 06-068 JAN 07?
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