i'm think of all the things i want to do to my sol.. it's mainly stock now... i'm thinking of doing a swap to an h22 and also changing the auto to man. at the same time.. now i know it's a heck of transfer but would this be best to do all at one time... and would it be best to basicaly build the motor and clutch and trans all at the same time OUTSIDE the car and then drop it in... or not...

 

yes.

 

i assume yes to both... thanks...

 

Most definatly. especially if you could build the motor all winter and drop it in b4 summer

 

Not that I have ever owned an automatic but I would lose that asap.

 

yea, i can't stand auro.. do you think it would be a huge deal to switch that out?? i've heard that if i go with a full engine and tranny swap it's not so bad to do..

 

Before you decide to swap the h22, look in the h2b faq. You might kick yourself later for not doing an h2b swap instead of the regular h22 swap.

 

lol.. please don't kick me for asking but what exactly is an h2b swap?

 

after finalizing my search i may have found my answer... but i want to make sure i'm right..

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by philadd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">H2B is a kit that allows an H series motor to bolt up to a B series tranny. The kit was designed to eliminate the axle problems that owners had after swapping an H22 into a Civic or Integra. With the ability to retain the B series tranny, owners were able to keep the axles at correct angles and positions, and the swap itself would eliminate the need for custom tranny mounts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

is this correct? and if it is... i think you're right i'm sure i would have kicked myself later for not doing it..

so on that note.. an h22 swap with h2b kit and a b-series tranny.. yes?

 

Yes, an h2b swap is an h22 motor mated to a b-series transmission vie a special adapter plate kit.

The QSD kit is ~$700 new, and the other one ranged from $750-$1300.

The QSD seems to be the preferred kit. it offers more ground clearance a tiny bit of extra room for a/c or p/s

 

the only thing I know about H2B swaps (from teh only one i've seen in person) is that the motor sits really high. This one had to use hood props.

Edit: it was in an eg.


Modified by mugen-k at 6:59 PM 12/11/2007

 

yum... i'm getting excited... i'm sure it'll be a hell of a long time before i get everything i need to drop it... but thanks for helping me make my decision..

 

there's a girl on here that i've found that has a 93 sol and did an h2b swap... and she had to put some clearance on her hood... i'm wondering if there would be anyway to drop it the inch or two to squelch the hood clearance problem.. i must search...

 

you could custom fabricate new mount positions and lower it a tad. But for every inch you lower the motor you also lose ground clearance. If you plan on being dumped I'd suggest leaving it at the manufacturer level.

You can get hoods that have spacing for larger motors also if you're into that. Or you could even trim the reinforcement webbing on the underside of the hood to accommodate the valve cover.

And the spaced hood looks good to me, especially if there's a good reason for it being spaced. When you tell people you had to space it to fit your 2.2L in, it gets fun responses.

NOTE: In an ek with either kit hood clearance I have yet to see an issue. Stock hood position seems to suffice.

 

thanks for your help... from my understanding on the sol h2b swap that amy did it looks like she needed to modify it.. i'm pretty sure the sol is about the same as the eg... i think.. tho i could be wrong... lol

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondasghost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> thanks for your help... from my understanding on the sol h2b swap that amy did it looks like she needed to modify it.. i'm pretty sure the sol is about the same as the eg... i think.. tho i could be wrong... lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

She did.

She had to grind down the bottom left (driverside rear) corner of the block so the axle could pass unobstructed.

She told me it wasn't that much to grind down though...so I don't know.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">She had to grind down the bottom left (driverside rear) corner of the block so the axle could pass unobstructed.

She told me it wasn't that much to grind down though...so I don't know.</TD></TR></TABLE>

it's not, and grinding down the back part of the block is typical of any h2b swap. In any car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

She did.

She had to grind down the bottom left (driverside rear) corner of the block so the axle could pass unobstructed.

She told me it wasn't that much to grind down though...so I don't know.</TD></TR></TABLE>

it wasn't much... I have pictures on my h2b thread so you can see how much exactly it was

 

lol yea i saw that... i read your entire thread and most of another one i think yesterday... what can i say it was a slow day... and when i saw that you put the h into a sol... it kinda made my day...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by amy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it wasn't much... I have pictures on my h2b thread so you can see how much exactly it was</TD></TR></TABLE>

you did have to modify the bay or chassis a bit didn't you??

other than modding the block and the chassis a bit did you do much modifying to the car to get it in? and how much clearence do you have under the car?? and how much of a b!tch would it be to have a flush hood?? just curious.. other than that i'll shut up and leave you alone..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondasghost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you did have to modify the bay or chassis a bit didn't you??

other than modding the block and the chassis a bit did you do much modifying to the car to get it in? and how much clearence do you have under the car?? and how much of a b!tch would it be to have a flush hood?? just curious.. other than that i'll shut up and leave you alone.. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Let's see, i'll answer in order:

Yes I had to modify the bay... Banged in and cut the lower portion of the frame rail to make clearance for the timing side... Other than that, the only place my hood hits is on the valve cover on the timing side. I bet if you took a little bit off the corner, it would fit much closer.. and relocating the pcv would make even more clearance. Under the car is the same amount of clearance as under a b-series, that's one of the perks of doing the h2b.. it sits up higher yes but it doesn't scrape oil pan everywhere you go. I already explained the hood, i have mine down to 1/4" raised and that's good enough for me

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by amy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Let's see, i'll answer in order:

Yes I had to modify the bay... Banged in and cut the lower portion of the frame rail to make clearance for the timing side... Other than that, the only place my hood hits is on the valve cover on the timing side. I bet if you took a little bit off the corner, it would fit much closer.. and relocating the pcv would make even more clearance. Under the car is the same amount of clearance as under a b-series, that's one of the perks of doing the h2b.. it sits up higher yes but it doesn't scrape oil pan everywhere you go. I already explained the hood, i have mine down to 1/4" raised and that's good enough for me</TD></TR></TABLE>

sweet.. i can't wait hopefully i won't have as many problems as you have along the way.. how's that coming by the way?? and i'm kinda starting to like the raised hood.. it makes people wonder... lol...

 

Just my 2 cents..I have a h22 swapped del sol using the h22 trans. The h2b kit is well worth it. For one, the axle angles are so bad with the h series trans, I have a problem breaking the drivers side fro some reason. Also the oil pan clearence...I just pulled my motor which was just in time cause my oil pan got so beat up it smashed the oil pickup causing low oil pressure... my oil light was flickering prior to pulling the motor.

I havent decided to stick with the h-series trans or not. I'm building the motor and boosting it so I got a lot of money going to other things

Good luck with the swap!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DuecedSol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just my 2 cents..I have a h22 swapped del sol using the h22 trans. The h2b kit is well worth it. For one, the axle angles are so bad with the h series trans, I have a problem breaking the drivers side fro some reason. Also the oil pan clearence...I just pulled my motor which was just in time cause my oil pan got so beat up it smashed the oil pickup causing low oil pressure... my oil light was flickering prior to pulling the motor.

I havent decided to stick with the h-series trans or not. I'm building the motor and boosting it so I got a lot of money going to other things

Good luck with the swap!</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks... i'm positive i'm going with the h2b...

are you putting the boosted h back into the sol?? i'm still thinking if i want to go N/A or boosted..

 

buy my built h22

Then swap that into your delsol and enjoy 400whp of glory!