i dont know what im doing. **bb2 engine bay cleaning project**
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first of all, let me say thanks to Justin (jlude90) for the sweet deal on these used parts. he hooked me up big time. i bought a bunch of parts to convert my abs equipped prelude to a non-abs prelude (booster, master cylinder, proportioning valve, and all the hard brake lines). then i figured, since he is parting a prelude out, why dont i just buy the rack in an attempt to fix the play in my steering wheel.
now, going into this project i felt it would be a piece of cake and just be really time consuming... WRONG. this crap is difficult lol. today was the first day on the job and i managed to get the intake manifold off so i could get to the parts (all the hard brake lines are attached to the firewall
. then i removed the abs unit, which was a pita. then i started on the brake lines. these things are like a bunch of boy scouts got together with some rope, tangled them all together, then the rope magically turned into brake lines and honda attached them to the car. literally everything has to come off the firewall and the fun doesnt stop there b/c you also have to disconnect the steering column from the rack (which, i will admit, is a lot easier than i made it out to be) but since im putting in a new-used rack it didnt make me too angry. after the front brake lines came out i decided to leave the rears for the next day and instead, removed the master cylinder and booster. the booster bolts are a pita too, especially the bottom right one
and that was where i stopped today. took about 5 hours (i work slow and forget where i put things lol). next time ill prolly remove the rear lines (if i need to, i just realized that i might not have to which would be SWEET) and possibly get the old rack out. i have new inner tie rods, boots, and clamps for the new-used rack so i wont put that in until i have those parts.
now, on with the pics.
here is some old parts and some new parts... and the abs unit from hell that didnt want to come out

heres the new-used rack and the new prop valve --> front right brake tube

the motor, minus a few things

shenanigans hiding under the intake mani

the hoses off the heater core just would not come off!

my mom is not happy that my pos is taking up her garage spot haha

i sprayed my intake mani with wrinkle paint a few months ago btw, dunno if i ever showed it

this is how i left the garage... my dad wont be happy till the mess is gone

ive also been thinking about removing the blower, evap and possibly heater core while the car is in shambles. if i do this i will attempt to put the fuse box in the passenger side dash and hide that ugly harness thats been under the fuse box out of view. if i get daring, i have a nifty hole in my dash where my airbag used to be, i have put the airbag cover back on the dash but under it would be an excellent spot for the fuse box
next installment of this project will be either tomorrow or the next day. i hope to be finished with everything by christmas (if i include removing the blower and other things i think this is a good time frame). id like to be able to roll it in and out of the garage by next weekend tho or my mom will start nagging
Modified by crdcz03 at 5:21 AM 12/12/2007
Modified by crdcz03 at 3:56 AM 12/29/2007
first of all, let me say thanks to Justin (jlude90) for the sweet deal on these used parts. he hooked me up big time. i bought a bunch of parts to convert my abs equipped prelude to a non-abs prelude (booster, master cylinder, proportioning valve, and all the hard brake lines). then i figured, since he is parting a prelude out, why dont i just buy the rack in an attempt to fix the play in my steering wheel.
now, going into this project i felt it would be a piece of cake and just be really time consuming... WRONG. this crap is difficult lol. today was the first day on the job and i managed to get the intake manifold off so i could get to the parts (all the hard brake lines are attached to the firewall
. then i removed the abs unit, which was a pita. then i started on the brake lines. these things are like a bunch of boy scouts got together with some rope, tangled them all together, then the rope magically turned into brake lines and honda attached them to the car. literally everything has to come off the firewall and the fun doesnt stop there b/c you also have to disconnect the steering column from the rack (which, i will admit, is a lot easier than i made it out to be) but since im putting in a new-used rack it didnt make me too angry. after the front brake lines came out i decided to leave the rears for the next day and instead, removed the master cylinder and booster. the booster bolts are a pita too, especially the bottom right one and that was where i stopped today. took about 5 hours (i work slow and forget where i put things lol). next time ill prolly remove the rear lines (if i need to, i just realized that i might not have to which would be SWEET) and possibly get the old rack out. i have new inner tie rods, boots, and clamps for the new-used rack so i wont put that in until i have those parts.
now, on with the pics.
here is some old parts and some new parts... and the abs unit from hell that didnt want to come out
heres the new-used rack and the new prop valve --> front right brake tube
the motor, minus a few things
shenanigans hiding under the intake mani
the hoses off the heater core just would not come off!
my mom is not happy that my pos is taking up her garage spot haha
i sprayed my intake mani with wrinkle paint a few months ago btw, dunno if i ever showed it
this is how i left the garage... my dad wont be happy till the mess is gone
ive also been thinking about removing the blower, evap and possibly heater core while the car is in shambles. if i do this i will attempt to put the fuse box in the passenger side dash and hide that ugly harness thats been under the fuse box out of view. if i get daring, i have a nifty hole in my dash where my airbag used to be, i have put the airbag cover back on the dash but under it would be an excellent spot for the fuse box

next installment of this project will be either tomorrow or the next day. i hope to be finished with everything by christmas (if i include removing the blower and other things i think this is a good time frame). id like to be able to roll it in and out of the garage by next weekend tho or my mom will start nagging
Modified by crdcz03 at 5:21 AM 12/12/2007
Modified by crdcz03 at 3:56 AM 12/29/2007
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today i only worked on it for about 1.5 hours. i wanted to get the blower and evaporator out so i could get the fuse box and some wire harness in its place. it went pretty smoothly
heres tonights pics:
ill run the vtec wire (red) and the black battery-->starter wire tomorrow in the same manner as the others.

heres the wires that most of you 4th genners have sitting next to your intake

theres a lot of room under the dash without the blower and evaporator

a cabin filter may have prevented this lol

tomorrows project (since i have tuesdays off) is to do some wire extending, which i really dont want to do b/c i have no patience for soldering but it needs to be done so i can get the other end of the harness through the firewall once and for all.
heres tonights pics:
ill run the vtec wire (red) and the black battery-->starter wire tomorrow in the same manner as the others.
heres the wires that most of you 4th genners have sitting next to your intake
theres a lot of room under the dash without the blower and evaporator
a cabin filter may have prevented this lol
tomorrows project (since i have tuesdays off) is to do some wire extending, which i really dont want to do b/c i have no patience for soldering but it needs to be done so i can get the other end of the harness through the firewall once and for all.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DxHatchback »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A lot of work, but it will definitely be worth it.
Post pictures once you finish.
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fo sho. this is the project thread. i figured id jump on the project thread bandwagon
Post pictures once you finish.
</TD></TR></TABLE>fo sho. this is the project thread. i figured id jump on the project thread bandwagon
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today the fuse box got mounted in its new home. its tucked away quite nicely under the dash. once i put the lower dash cover back on this will not be seen at all.

and the brackets that hold it on. the gold part is a clevis from a brake booster and the silver part is the stock bracket that has always held the fuse box. this way i can still unclip the fuse box if need be.

i also managed to get the brake lines connected to the proportioning valve, connected everything back to the firewall, and relocated the injector resistor box.

and this is all the wire lengthening i could stand today. i seriously hate soldering with a passion. it makes me want to throw things. sad part is that i still have quite a few wires left

and there will probably not be an installment for the next few days as i will be quite busy.
and the brackets that hold it on. the gold part is a clevis from a brake booster and the silver part is the stock bracket that has always held the fuse box. this way i can still unclip the fuse box if need be.
i also managed to get the brake lines connected to the proportioning valve, connected everything back to the firewall, and relocated the injector resistor box.
and this is all the wire lengthening i could stand today. i seriously hate soldering with a passion. it makes me want to throw things. sad part is that i still have quite a few wires left

and there will probably not be an installment for the next few days as i will be quite busy.
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lol damn this thread drops like a rock. yous guys just dont care about Preludes hahaha :tongue:
i attempted to change my thread title to make it more interesting but failed miserably. oh well
i attempted to change my thread title to make it more interesting but failed miserably. oh well
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crdcz03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol damn this thread drops like a rock. yous guys just dont care about Preludes? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I do lol. I actually love them. My ex had a pretty clean red one, took good care of it. She sold it off shortly after she went to college.
Anyway, you are brave. I'm going to be attempting this exact thing (plus a whole lot more) on my DA in a couple of months. Ive got a ton of reading up to do before then. Looks like youve got everything under control man. Keep us posted on how this thing goes.
Do you have another car you drive daily?
EDIT: Damn, reading owns
haha definatly ballin' though
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BB4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">edit: nvm i see you have a s2k also now
ballin</TD></TR></TABLE>
I do lol. I actually love them. My ex had a pretty clean red one, took good care of it. She sold it off shortly after she went to college.
Anyway, you are brave. I'm going to be attempting this exact thing (plus a whole lot more) on my DA in a couple of months. Ive got a ton of reading up to do before then. Looks like youve got everything under control man. Keep us posted on how this thing goes.
Do you have another car you drive daily?
EDIT: Damn, reading owns
haha definatly ballin' though<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BB4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">edit: nvm i see you have a s2k also now
ballin</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BB4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WHAT UP CRAIG!
cant believe you still got that prelude, ive been through 3 cars since my prelude now
edit: nvm i see you have a s2k also now
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lol Allen we need to keep in touch more often. wtf have you been up to?
cant believe you still got that prelude, ive been through 3 cars since my prelude now

edit: nvm i see you have a s2k also now
ballin</TD></TR></TABLE>lol Allen we need to keep in touch more often. wtf have you been up to?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrkrooz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bump for more updates
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the updates will be minimal probably till monday or tuesday.
thursday: living nativity rehearsal
friday: who knows maybe ill put the rack in b/c i have no life
saturday: living nativity show
sunday: living nativity show
and i need to buy some wire for the lengthening b/c the wires im at are a little thicker than the ones i have on tap. although i think my abs harness is in the shed so i may attempt to snag some from that pos
</TD></TR></TABLE>the updates will be minimal probably till monday or tuesday.
thursday: living nativity rehearsal
friday: who knows maybe ill put the rack in b/c i have no life
saturday: living nativity show
sunday: living nativity show
and i need to buy some wire for the lengthening b/c the wires im at are a little thicker than the ones i have on tap. although i think my abs harness is in the shed so i may attempt to snag some from that pos
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lol Allen we need to keep in touch more often. wtf have you been up to?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm still trying to get through college dude, lol. driving an 02 4runner now, had a honda element
, and a gsr w/ a built 2.0l motor
prior to the 4runner, snapped a camshaft in 4 pieces in the gsr. lol
I had always toyed with the idea of convertign to non-abs in the lude except i never liked the idea that i had to drop to a smaller brake master cylinder to do it, so i just kept it
lol Allen we need to keep in touch more often. wtf have you been up to?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm still trying to get through college dude, lol. driving an 02 4runner now, had a honda element
, and a gsr w/ a built 2.0l motor
prior to the 4runner, snapped a camshaft in 4 pieces in the gsr. lolI had always toyed with the idea of convertign to non-abs in the lude except i never liked the idea that i had to drop to a smaller brake master cylinder to do it, so i just kept it
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I'm still trying to get through college dude, lol. driving an 02 4runner now, had a honda element
, and a gsr w/ a built 2.0l motor
prior to the 4runner, snapped a camshaft in 4 pieces in the gsr. lol
I had always toyed with the idea of convertign to non-abs in the lude except i never liked the idea that i had to drop to a smaller brake master cylinder to do it, so i just kept it
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lol a 4runner. now you sound like Jay
shoulda just stuck with the lude btw
I'm still trying to get through college dude, lol. driving an 02 4runner now, had a honda element
, and a gsr w/ a built 2.0l motor
prior to the 4runner, snapped a camshaft in 4 pieces in the gsr. lolI had always toyed with the idea of convertign to non-abs in the lude except i never liked the idea that i had to drop to a smaller brake master cylinder to do it, so i just kept it
</TD></TR></TABLE>lol a 4runner. now you sound like Jay
shoulda just stuck with the lude btw
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lol a 4runner. now you sound like Jay
shoulda just stuck with the lude btw
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touche
lol a 4runner. now you sound like Jay
shoulda just stuck with the lude btw
</TD></TR></TABLE>touche
you are giong to have to replace the heater core. same thing happened to me when my h22 went in, coolant was running down the firewall inside the car pooling up behind the seats
ps: 2.5 years later still no heat
ps: 2.5 years later still no heat
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jakeiscool »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you are giong to have to replace the heater core. same thing happened to me when my h22 went in, coolant was running down the firewall inside the car pooling up behind the seats
ps: 2.5 years later still no heat
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dont tell me that
you're telling me that if i leave the hoses off ill have a puddle behind my seats?
btw, update: got the new/used rack in with the new inner TRE's. now i just need to install the booster/mc and finish the soldering
ps: 2.5 years later still no heat
</TD></TR></TABLE>dont tell me that
you're telling me that if i leave the hoses off ill have a puddle behind my seats?
btw, update: got the new/used rack in with the new inner TRE's. now i just need to install the booster/mc and finish the soldering





