<FONT COLOR="red">SUSTEC PRO S-0C is for those who desire both high performance and maximum comfort from a suspension system. S-0C is ideal for performance or street applications.

Dispelling a popular belief that a firm or harsh ride is a sign of a performance suspension, the short stroke, shortened case dampener of the S-0C is extremely unique in that it’s internal construction allows it to deliver superior handling without sacrificing strength or ride comfort.

Unique double-cylinder design allows for full suspension stroke within the shortened shock body while Low-pressure gasses ensure smooth rebound characteristics for additional ride comfort.</FONT>

Helper Springs

Helper springs assist with rebound stability, ride comfort and keep the main coil spring seated. Preload of the main spring can also be set to zero, for maximum comfort and suspension travel. Non helper spring models are also available for a lower cost! Click here to see the Type II model.




<FONT COLOR="blue">SUSTEC PRO S-0C Type II features all of the benefits of the S-0C in a lower cost, high value package. The Type II is a non-helper spring model that features a longer main coil spring.

Dispelling a popular belief that a firm or harsh ride is a sign of a performance suspension, the short stroke, shortened case dampener of the S-0C Type II is extremely unique in that it’s internal construction allows it to deliver superior handling without sacrificing strength or ride comfort.

Unique double-cylinder design allows for full suspension stroke within the shortened shock body while Low-pressure gasses ensure smooth rebound characteristics for additional ride comfort.

For all driving enthusiasts.</FONT>

This is new to me so im just tryin to figure if its worth it to by the <U>SUSTEC PRO S-0C </U> with the helper springs and spend the extra 200 app.

I do wanna make sure that my ride comfort is maxed out but as usual i wanted to get some feedback b4 i made my final decision

Discuss...

 

A helper spring has negligible spring rate, and therefore has no effect on rebound. With an adjustable lower mount, spring preload can be set to zero and full stroke can be maintained with or without a helper spring. Suspension travel is not affected by the presence or lack of a helper spring.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A helper spring has negligible spring rate, and therefore has no effect on rebound. With an adjustable lower mount, spring preload can be set to zero and full stroke can be maintained with or without a helper spring. Suspension travel is not affected by the presence or lack of a helper spring. </TD></TR></TABLE>

so basically it wouldnt hurt if i went with the cheaper set. i just want to make sure that i can get the most comfortable ride possible

 

If you want just a comfortable ride, I'm not so sure you should be looking at these sorts of coilovers at all. Maybe lowering springs with a progressive rate.

If you're looking for as comfortable a ride as possible from a set of performance coilovers though, you should look carefully at spring rate and damping of the shocks. Ride comfort is ALWAYS sacrificed when you increase spring rate, there is nothing out there that will preserve stock ride quality while improving performance that I know of. Higher spring rates translate to a harsher ride; how harsh it is and in what situations you will feel it will be determined by the dampers.

Edit: I don't see an adjustable lower mount on those coilovers pictured. In that case, helper springs would serve the purpose as written in that description blurb, with the exception of improving ride comfort.

 

The main reason why i wanted the coilovers was to have full capabilty of adjusting whenever needed.

Im on crap suspension now (aero speed coilovers) so i know anything will be better then what i have now as far as ride comfort.

Honestly i dont know too much about spring rates etc etc so its hard for me to perform a detailed research.

i do alot of daily driving/highway driving so i want the ride to be as comfortable as possible and figured TANABE would be able to offer that.

what spring rate should i be looking for? do you have any recommendations as far as a full coilover system?

 

Choosing coilovers is a lot like choosing any other mod, there are trade-offs between performance, cost and driveability. Spring rates play the biggest part in both performance and ride comfort; high rates make the ride harsher but can make the car handle better. I'm not sure what car you drive and my numbers are probably off, but IIRC the stock spring rates for a GSR were like 250lbs/in front and 100lbs/in rear, something like that. Consider if you bumped up to 450/350, which seems pretty common and relatively mild in terms of aftermarket coilovers. That's an 80% increase in the fronts and 250% in the rear.

Ride quality is subjective, and what is acceptable depends a lot on the person and what they've used in the past. Why do you need adjustable coilovers, and what are you planning on adjusting? Spring rates are fixed - there's no changing the rates (generally). Damping is sometimes adjustable, but don't expect it to transform the ride from Corvette to Cadillac. And honestly, how many times do you think you'll be adjusting the ride height (consider that every change in ride height requires an alignment to be performed).

 

good info PIC..

keep in mind...FROM WHAT I'VE READ...a lot of people on HT buy higher spring rates than that...(a friend of mine runs 550/450 for autox/daily i believe) even for the street... because they want to "slam" their car. the lower you go, the higher the spring rate you want because you don't want to "bottom out" the shock because then the shock will go to ****.

to componsate for this...people extend the top hats on their shocks (for example the Ground Control extended top hats, or make their own) so that the shock has an inch or so more to travel down, but they can still keep the same ride height.

like PIC said...if you've never ridden in a lowered car, "upgrading" to any kind of stiffer spring will be a big surprise!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Choosing coilovers is a lot like choosing any other mod, there are trade-offs between performance, cost and driveability. Spring rates play the biggest part in both performance and ride comfort; high rates make the ride harsher but can make the car handle better. I'm not sure what car you drive and my numbers are probably off, but IIRC the stock spring rates for a GSR were like 250lbs/in front and 100lbs/in rear, something like that. Consider if you bumped up to 450/350, which seems pretty common and relatively mild in terms of aftermarket coilovers. That's an 80% increase in the fronts and 250% in the rear.

Ride quality is subjective, and what is acceptable depends a lot on the person and what they've used in the past. Why do you need adjustable coilovers, and what are you planning on adjusting? Spring rates are fixed - there's no changing the rates (generally). Damping is sometimes adjustable, but don't expect it to transform the ride from Corvette to Cadillac. And honestly, how many times do you think you'll be adjusting the ride height (consider that every change in ride height requires an alignment to be performed).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Prob not gonna adjust it but maybe once or twice upon installing them and voiding wheel gap. Im riding on coilovers now but its a pretty bad set up so i know anything is better then what i have now.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dinko &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good info PIC..

keep in mind...FROM WHAT I'VE READ...a lot of people on HT buy higher spring rates than that...(a friend of mine runs 550/450 for autox/daily i believe) even for the street... because they want to "slam" their car. the lower you go, the higher the spring rate you want because you don't want to "bottom out" the shock because then the shock will go to ****.

to componsate for this...people extend the top hats on their shocks (for example the Ground Control extended top hats, or make their own) so that the shock has an inch or so more to travel down, but they can still keep the same ride height.

like PIC said...if you've never ridden in a lowered car, "upgrading" to any kind of stiffer spring will be a big surprise! </TD></TR></TABLE>

so now it makes sense to me why people choose to go with the higher spring rate. yes i am looking to go with the slam look

i was seriously contemplating the GC coil w top hats/koni shock combo but i wanted to see what other options were out there


Modified by Mr JDM South at 10:21 AM 12/12/2007

 

prob pickin up the set with the helper springs close to what the price of the set w/o em' so we shall see

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr JDM South &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">prob pickin up the set with the helper springs close to what the price of the set w/o em' so we shall see </TD></TR></TABLE>

nevamind im prob just going to order... <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr JDM South &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SUSTEC PRO S-0C is for those who desire both high performance and maximum comfort from a suspension system.</TD></TR></TABLE> from evasivemotorsports.com since its a xmas gift from my girl

 

Good Choice. When your not paying for it it is always better to get the best one.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Right Hand man &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good Choice. When your not paying for it it is always better to get the best one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

my thoughts exactly

 

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">....</TD></TR></TABLE>

it was like the op didn't even read what pic had to say...

its like i always say.. people ask questions on "brand x"

and then people respond "BRAND X IS THE **** YO!"

it doesn't matter.. the op will just go with what ever he wants.. who cares about useful information... that makes logical sense...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bpr0422 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it was like the op didn't even read what pic had to say...

its like i always say.. people ask questions on "brand x"

and then people respond "BRAND X IS THE **** YO!"

it doesn't matter.. the op will just go with what ever he wants.. who cares about useful information... that makes logical sense... </TD></TR></TABLE>

guessing op would be me and yes you are right. either way id end up going with which set i wanted but i just wanted to grab some info/reviews on the product before purchasing

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr JDM South &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

guessing op would be me and yes you are right. either way id end up going with which set i wanted but i just wanted to grab some info/reviews on the product before purchasing</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's what these forums are about. We all make our own decision but it is nice to see what other people have to say about the product. Sometimes some products are mentioned that you might not have heard of and decide to do some research. But in the end you buy what you want.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Right Hand man &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's what these forums are about. We all make our own decision but it is nice to see what other people have to say about the product. Sometimes some products are mentioned that you might not have heard of and decide to do some research. But in the end you buy what you want. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well put