Progressive degrade in performance
This is a long thread, so bare with me:
This last summer I did a lot of replacing of parts, including:
+ ICM inside distributor, causing me to take apart the distributor
+ Water pump, causing me to take the timing belt off.
+ Spark Plugs
+ Spark Plug wires
+ Air Filter
+ Plus a few more
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SYMPTOMS/PROBLEMS
My old MPG: 34. New MPG : 24

Here's some problem : As long as the car is not in warm operation temperature, everything is good! Accelerates like brand new, etc. As soon as it gets to a warm operating state, acceleration gets sloppy and power is just robbed. Not carbuerator robbed, but pretty damn near close.
There aren't any carbon deposits on my bumper, so I now it's not running extremely rich.
DISTRIBUTOR I never re-timed the distributor whenever I took it apart because whenever I took it apart and pieced it back onto the cam, it looks like the previous owner dug a tiny scratch on the Distributor housing to serve as a reference point. They are lined up now, but I haven't taken a timing gun.
WATER PUMP/TIMING BELT When I changed the timing belt I aligned all the elements accordingly - exhaust cam, intake cam, and the crankshaft. The only "nay-nay" I seen was the previous owner lost the crank pully key. I got the crank pully aligned as close as possible to where it "SHOULD" be whenever I tightened the pulley. It doesn't wobble or anything, but I have a key now but it's way too damn cold to be doing it.
SPARK PLUGS
I have gone through three sets now. It seems that after two/three days a set fouls out. This one isn't that bad, as they've lasted me quite a bit longer, but you could definately tell they fouled out quickly.
SPARK PLUG WIRES
I bought these and sure enough the metal rod that sits on the actual spark plug ( the metal/aluminum insert in the spark plug tube that goes in the cylinder? ) went loose from the tube housing. Two of them did that so I had to jerry rig them back in. expletive oreilly's. Those things are POS's.
Any ideas? Since my crank pulley *may* not be perfectly aligned, won't it be hard to get an accurate ignition timing??
This last summer I did a lot of replacing of parts, including:
+ ICM inside distributor, causing me to take apart the distributor
+ Water pump, causing me to take the timing belt off.
+ Spark Plugs
+ Spark Plug wires
+ Air Filter
+ Plus a few more
---------------------------------------------------
SYMPTOMS/PROBLEMS
My old MPG: 34. New MPG : 24

Here's some problem : As long as the car is not in warm operation temperature, everything is good! Accelerates like brand new, etc. As soon as it gets to a warm operating state, acceleration gets sloppy and power is just robbed. Not carbuerator robbed, but pretty damn near close.
There aren't any carbon deposits on my bumper, so I now it's not running extremely rich.
DISTRIBUTOR I never re-timed the distributor whenever I took it apart because whenever I took it apart and pieced it back onto the cam, it looks like the previous owner dug a tiny scratch on the Distributor housing to serve as a reference point. They are lined up now, but I haven't taken a timing gun.
WATER PUMP/TIMING BELT When I changed the timing belt I aligned all the elements accordingly - exhaust cam, intake cam, and the crankshaft. The only "nay-nay" I seen was the previous owner lost the crank pully key. I got the crank pully aligned as close as possible to where it "SHOULD" be whenever I tightened the pulley. It doesn't wobble or anything, but I have a key now but it's way too damn cold to be doing it.
SPARK PLUGS
I have gone through three sets now. It seems that after two/three days a set fouls out. This one isn't that bad, as they've lasted me quite a bit longer, but you could definately tell they fouled out quickly.
SPARK PLUG WIRES
I bought these and sure enough the metal rod that sits on the actual spark plug ( the metal/aluminum insert in the spark plug tube that goes in the cylinder? ) went loose from the tube housing. Two of them did that so I had to jerry rig them back in. expletive oreilly's. Those things are POS's.
Any ideas? Since my crank pulley *may* not be perfectly aligned, won't it be hard to get an accurate ignition timing??
Good to see we still have people that can actually type sentances/paragraphs. I thought we lost them all.
It sounds like your timing, you should get that key in there, line everything up and use a timing gun.
It sounds like your timing, you should get that key in there, line everything up and use a timing gun.
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3rd that.
Get the woodruff key, and a timing gun.
Also, pick up some NGK spark plug wires for about $45. Those are the best, OEM quality, and you don't need anything more or less than that.
I also changed my O2 sensor earlier this year, old one was original w/ 230K miles on it, and I saw a significant increase in fuel economy.
Get the woodruff key, and a timing gun.
Also, pick up some NGK spark plug wires for about $45. Those are the best, OEM quality, and you don't need anything more or less than that.
I also changed my O2 sensor earlier this year, old one was original w/ 230K miles on it, and I saw a significant increase in fuel economy.
Yeah, I kinda figured the problem was the ignition timing but I think I'll have to make due with poor performance until winter gets over because it is WAY too cold to start breaking anything major down. I just moved closer into town so I'll be using less gas either way. Thanks a lot guys, appreciate the help. I'll update the thread eventually whenever I do take a timing gun to her.
Alright, guys. I've replaced the spark plug wires and already noticed a little better performance, but still nowhere near I should be. In the coming month or so I'm going to be purchasing a timing gun light to do the project.
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