Truth about the B18C3
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I searched and read EVERY post on Honda-tech about this and still have no solid answers. My friend recently came across one and we CANNOT figure out where the hell this motor is from...Some swear it's a UK GSR, some say 95 JDM ITR, Some say JDM replacement motors...WTF is it ? does anyone have a SOLID answer ?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MattyP »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I searched and read EVERY post on Honda-tech about this and still have no solid answers. My friend recently came across one and we CANNOT figure out where the hell this motor is from...Some swear it's a UK GSR, some say 95 JDM ITR, Some say JDM replacement motors...WTF is it ? does anyone have a SOLID answer ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Oh and btw the b18c3 that I acquired has a pr3 head on it......so its not a gsr.......or is it?!?!?!???
<<<buddy of his with b18c3.
Oh and btw the b18c3 that I acquired has a pr3 head on it......so its not a gsr.......or is it?!?!?!???
its not a UK motor, our equivalent of the GSR was the B18C4
its what came in Automatic SiR's in Japan, it has a slight increase in power to make up for the auto box losing some through the torque converter
a guy at the shop i get my work done had one with a S/C until he blew it up
its what came in Automatic SiR's in Japan, it has a slight increase in power to make up for the auto box losing some through the torque converter
a guy at the shop i get my work done had one with a S/C until he blew it up
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tartje »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its not a UK motor, our equivalent of the GSR was the B18C4
its what came in Automatic SiR's in Japan, it has a slight increase in power to make up for the auto box losing some through the torque converter
a guy at the shop i get my work done had one with a S/C until he blew it up
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wouldnt it have a p72 head if its a gsr?
its what came in Automatic SiR's in Japan, it has a slight increase in power to make up for the auto box losing some through the torque converter
a guy at the shop i get my work done had one with a S/C until he blew it up
</TD></TR></TABLE>wouldnt it have a p72 head if its a gsr?
i didn't say it was a GSR motor with an increase in power
i said it CAME in the SiR but had a slight increase in power over the old motor to make up for the automatic gearbox.
after he ripped the motor apart once he blew it up, apparently the pistons had larger domes than the regular P72's, but never bothered to check the cams
i said it CAME in the SiR but had a slight increase in power over the old motor to make up for the automatic gearbox.
after he ripped the motor apart once he blew it up, apparently the pistons had larger domes than the regular P72's, but never bothered to check the cams
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tartje »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i didn't say it was a GSR motor with an increase in power
i said it CAME in the SiR but had a slight increase in power over the old motor to make up for the automatic gearbox.
after he ripped the motor apart once he blew it up, apparently the pistons had larger domes than the regular P72's, but never bothered to check the cams</TD></TR></TABLE>
ahhhhhh ok. hmm well ill check my cams on friday.
i said it CAME in the SiR but had a slight increase in power over the old motor to make up for the automatic gearbox.
after he ripped the motor apart once he blew it up, apparently the pistons had larger domes than the regular P72's, but never bothered to check the cams</TD></TR></TABLE>
ahhhhhh ok. hmm well ill check my cams on friday.
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that was a decently quick search but i went to hella pages the search them for decent quotes, a couple random "96 jdm itr, 95-98 itr" ones came up but those didnt seem too credible since as we all know jdm engines are b18c b16a, ETC, no 4th number/letter, and if it was a jdm itr motor we would obviousley have alot more knowledge of them and have alot more of them imported already int he us caus we all nut over anything itr
im guessing its basicaly a gsr engine or "sir" or sir-g as its probably referd to in whatever country that engine was stamped for, also seems like it came in automatic(that is not strange becaus jdm "gsr" engines came in auto forum
Sell B18c3 Gsr Engine Complete PackageNov 29, 2007
B18c3 gsr engine complete package w / at gear box. High performance jdm engine with low mileage an
B18c3 gsr engine complete package w/at gear box
B18c3 gsr engine complete package MT gear box
B18C3 GSR ENGINE COMPLETE PACKAGE W/AT GEAR BOX 4
B18C3 GSR ENGINE COMPLETE PACKAGE MT GEAR BOX 10
R&D Motorsports' Spoon longblock option is a B18C and not a B18C3
inlinefour.com's Spoon longblock is a B18C not a B18C3
2001 2 door GS-R B18C3 2 Door Silver/ Ebony Leather 5 MT
I bought a Used 01 GS-R W 40k, anyway, I was getting gas a few nights after having it, and this guy comes up to me and tells me he was going to buy my car (of course I got it first). He goes on to tell me that It's not the Stock B18 C1, but the B18 C3. Said he knew the guy that used to have it, and that he blew the C1 up, and had this "JDM" engine put in it. With the confused looks on my face, the guy has me open my hood, and shows me on the block.
Well I had it checked out at my local Acura Dealer, and they said everything looked fine. They didn't do either of those tests. They didn't even happen to mention that it is not the OEM engine,
lads im looking for a wiring diagram for a b18c3 engine with a P73 ecu! i have the service manual for the c5 but they dont match up with the c3! that is all i need to get my car running! thanks!
i just picked up a b18c3 it was an auto,
the block is a b18c3 auto the head is not an pr3 head the head is p72,
im guessing its basicaly a gsr engine or "sir" or sir-g as its probably referd to in whatever country that engine was stamped for, also seems like it came in automatic(that is not strange becaus jdm "gsr" engines came in auto forum
Sell B18c3 Gsr Engine Complete PackageNov 29, 2007
B18c3 gsr engine complete package w / at gear box. High performance jdm engine with low mileage an
B18c3 gsr engine complete package w/at gear box
B18c3 gsr engine complete package MT gear box
B18C3 GSR ENGINE COMPLETE PACKAGE W/AT GEAR BOX 4
B18C3 GSR ENGINE COMPLETE PACKAGE MT GEAR BOX 10
R&D Motorsports' Spoon longblock option is a B18C and not a B18C3
inlinefour.com's Spoon longblock is a B18C not a B18C3
2001 2 door GS-R B18C3 2 Door Silver/ Ebony Leather 5 MT
I bought a Used 01 GS-R W 40k, anyway, I was getting gas a few nights after having it, and this guy comes up to me and tells me he was going to buy my car (of course I got it first). He goes on to tell me that It's not the Stock B18 C1, but the B18 C3. Said he knew the guy that used to have it, and that he blew the C1 up, and had this "JDM" engine put in it. With the confused looks on my face, the guy has me open my hood, and shows me on the block.
Well I had it checked out at my local Acura Dealer, and they said everything looked fine. They didn't do either of those tests. They didn't even happen to mention that it is not the OEM engine,
lads im looking for a wiring diagram for a b18c3 engine with a P73 ecu! i have the service manual for the c5 but they dont match up with the c3! that is all i need to get my car running! thanks!
i just picked up a b18c3 it was an auto,
the block is a b18c3 auto the head is not an pr3 head the head is p72,
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave_B »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe an Australian block?
I think they had the B18C6 in their R's... Maybe the C3 is from something else of theirs? Just a thought.</TD></TR></TABLE>
no, UK ITR's are B18C6, Australian are B18C7
i swear, it came in JDM Auto models. if any other cars got them i don't know, but my mate cracked off and disposed of the old useless gearbox and put a B16 manual on it, then had it in his EG9 until it went pop. i think through a clogged injector and lots of boost
I think they had the B18C6 in their R's... Maybe the C3 is from something else of theirs? Just a thought.</TD></TR></TABLE>
no, UK ITR's are B18C6, Australian are B18C7
i swear, it came in JDM Auto models. if any other cars got them i don't know, but my mate cracked off and disposed of the old useless gearbox and put a B16 manual on it, then had it in his EG9 until it went pop. i think through a clogged injector and lots of boost
I remember a white RHD R in a Honda Tuning mag had a C3 in it, and it was a japan model GSR or Sir-G whatever. Imo I really wouldnt care what the block code is as long as it has mAd vTak!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tartje »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
no, UK ITR's are B18C6, Australian are B18C7
i swear, it came in JDM Auto models. if any other cars got them i don't know, but my mate cracked off and disposed of the old useless gearbox and put a B16 manual on it, then had it in his EG9 until it went pop. i think through a clogged injector and lots of boost</TD></TR></TABLE>
jdm blocks do not have a 5th digit like that...it would be b18c...
hmm, maybe im a little wrong? a source says it is an oem dealer replacement block for a jdm itr...
and here is a list i found on the b18c's...
B18C1 = Integra GS-R (USDM)
B18C2 = Integra Vtir (AUDM)
B18C3 = Integra Type R (96-97)(JDM)
B18C4 = Civic 1.8 Vti (EDM)
B18C5 = Integra Type R (USDM)
B18C6 = Integra Type R (EDM)
B18C7 = Integra Type R (AUDM)
Modified by crxgator at 1:38 PM 12/6/2007
no, UK ITR's are B18C6, Australian are B18C7
i swear, it came in JDM Auto models. if any other cars got them i don't know, but my mate cracked off and disposed of the old useless gearbox and put a B16 manual on it, then had it in his EG9 until it went pop. i think through a clogged injector and lots of boost</TD></TR></TABLE>
jdm blocks do not have a 5th digit like that...it would be b18c...
hmm, maybe im a little wrong? a source says it is an oem dealer replacement block for a jdm itr...
and here is a list i found on the b18c's...
B18C1 = Integra GS-R (USDM)
B18C2 = Integra Vtir (AUDM)
B18C3 = Integra Type R (96-97)(JDM)
B18C4 = Civic 1.8 Vti (EDM)
B18C5 = Integra Type R (USDM)
B18C6 = Integra Type R (EDM)
B18C7 = Integra Type R (AUDM)
Modified by crxgator at 1:38 PM 12/6/2007
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fullraceacura »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that was a decently quick search but i went to hella pages the search them for decent quotes, a couple random "96 jdm itr, 95-98 itr" ones came up but those didnt seem too credible since as we all know jdm engines are b18c b16a, ETC, no 4th number/letter, and if it was a jdm itr motor we would obviousley have alot more knowledge of them and have alot more of them imported already int he us caus we all nut over anything itr
im guessing its basicaly a gsr engine or "sir" or sir-g as its probably referd to in whatever country that engine was stamped for, also seems like it came in automatic(that is not strange becaus jdm "gsr" engines came in auto forum
Sell B18c3 Gsr Engine Complete PackageNov 29, 2007
B18c3 gsr engine complete package w / at gear box. High performance jdm engine with low mileage an
B18c3 gsr engine complete package w/at gear box
B18c3 gsr engine complete package MT gear box
B18C3 GSR ENGINE COMPLETE PACKAGE W/AT GEAR BOX 4
B18C3 GSR ENGINE COMPLETE PACKAGE MT GEAR BOX 10
R&D Motorsports' Spoon longblock option is a B18C and not a B18C3
inlinefour.com's Spoon longblock is a B18C not a B18C3
2001 2 door GS-R B18C3 2 Door Silver/ Ebony Leather 5 MT
I bought a Used 01 GS-R W 40k, anyway, I was getting gas a few nights after having it, and this guy comes up to me and tells me he was going to buy my car (of course I got it first). He goes on to tell me that It's not the Stock B18 C1, but the B18 C3. Said he knew the guy that used to have it, and that he blew the C1 up, and had this "JDM" engine put in it. With the confused looks on my face, the guy has me open my hood, and shows me on the block.
Well I had it checked out at my local Acura Dealer, and they said everything looked fine. They didn't do either of those tests. They didn't even happen to mention that it is not the OEM engine,
lads im looking for a wiring diagram for a b18c3 engine with a P73 ecu! i have the service manual for the c5 but they dont match up with the c3! that is all i need to get my car running! thanks!
i just picked up a b18c3 it was an auto,
the block is a b18c3 auto the head is not an pr3 head the head is p72,
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So the head on your c3 is a p72? hmmmm wonder why mines a pr3.......maybe i got swindled.
im guessing its basicaly a gsr engine or "sir" or sir-g as its probably referd to in whatever country that engine was stamped for, also seems like it came in automatic(that is not strange becaus jdm "gsr" engines came in auto forum
Sell B18c3 Gsr Engine Complete PackageNov 29, 2007
B18c3 gsr engine complete package w / at gear box. High performance jdm engine with low mileage an
B18c3 gsr engine complete package w/at gear box
B18c3 gsr engine complete package MT gear box
B18C3 GSR ENGINE COMPLETE PACKAGE W/AT GEAR BOX 4
B18C3 GSR ENGINE COMPLETE PACKAGE MT GEAR BOX 10
R&D Motorsports' Spoon longblock option is a B18C and not a B18C3
inlinefour.com's Spoon longblock is a B18C not a B18C3
2001 2 door GS-R B18C3 2 Door Silver/ Ebony Leather 5 MT
I bought a Used 01 GS-R W 40k, anyway, I was getting gas a few nights after having it, and this guy comes up to me and tells me he was going to buy my car (of course I got it first). He goes on to tell me that It's not the Stock B18 C1, but the B18 C3. Said he knew the guy that used to have it, and that he blew the C1 up, and had this "JDM" engine put in it. With the confused looks on my face, the guy has me open my hood, and shows me on the block.
Well I had it checked out at my local Acura Dealer, and they said everything looked fine. They didn't do either of those tests. They didn't even happen to mention that it is not the OEM engine,
lads im looking for a wiring diagram for a b18c3 engine with a P73 ecu! i have the service manual for the c5 but they dont match up with the c3! that is all i need to get my car running! thanks!
i just picked up a b18c3 it was an auto,
the block is a b18c3 auto the head is not an pr3 head the head is p72,
</TD></TR></TABLE>So the head on your c3 is a p72? hmmmm wonder why mines a pr3.......maybe i got swindled.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted94cx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a 96 spec itr engien from japan is just a b18c, i've had 3.
the b18c3...well, i couldn't tell ya...but there is NO b series from japan OTHER than the b18c's....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im guessing you meant to say "no b18c's other than just the b18c in japan" because there are tons of b series in japan other than b18c.
the b18c3...well, i couldn't tell ya...but there is NO b series from japan OTHER than the b18c's....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im guessing you meant to say "no b18c's other than just the b18c in japan" because there are tons of b series in japan other than b18c.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MattyP »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And this thread turns in to useless information, just as the ones i searched for did...figured it would, thank anyways</TD></TR></TABLE>'
its just a gsr motor, stick that in your pipe and smoke it
the only other thing people are calling it is a jdm itr motor which it is OBVIOUSLY NOT becaus its a b18c3 with p72 head, not a b18c with pr3 head, and obviousley jdm itr's never came with automatic trannies
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its just a gsr motor, stick that in your pipe and smoke it
the only other thing people are calling it is a jdm itr motor which it is OBVIOUSLY NOT becaus its a b18c3 with p72 head, not a b18c with pr3 head, and obviousley jdm itr's never came with automatic trannies
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fullraceacura »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">'
its just a gsr motor, stick that in your pipe and smoke it
the only other thing people are calling it is a jdm itr motor which it is OBVIOUSLY NOT becaus its a b18c3 with p72 head, not a b18c with pr3 head, and obviousley jdm itr's never came with automatic trannies
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My b18c3 has a pr3 head and i've heard of others with pr3 heads aswell.......that is the only confusing part. If mine had a p72 head I'd gladly accept the fact that its a GSR engine.
its just a gsr motor, stick that in your pipe and smoke it
the only other thing people are calling it is a jdm itr motor which it is OBVIOUSLY NOT becaus its a b18c3 with p72 head, not a b18c with pr3 head, and obviousley jdm itr's never came with automatic trannies
/thread</TD></TR></TABLE>
My b18c3 has a pr3 head and i've heard of others with pr3 heads aswell.......that is the only confusing part. If mine had a p72 head I'd gladly accept the fact that its a GSR engine.
gsr IM so gsr p72 head this oen also has auto tranny

<pre>B18c3 gsr engine complete package w / at gear box. High performance jdm engine with low mileage and good quality. </pre>
Engine: B18C3 GSR. Displacement: 1.8L. Front Clip. Units Available: SOLD OUT $2700.00 ...
i dont know, it seems perfectly logical to me that its a gsr from singapore/ and whatever other names popped up while searching, but even if my only line of reasoning was that its not a type r becaus WE would see alot more of them would be good enough for me, how is it we salvage itr **** from canada, uk, and tons and tons from japan but never come across this? becaus its a chinease/other asian counrys prodominitley automatic gsr swap, hell we dont even see alot of jdm automatic swaps becaus theyre auto swaps and becaus we DONT want them, theyre not rare swaps, just rare here becaus theres no reason to bring one into the country when you can sell a manual transmission gsr swap 100,000,000 million times easier and for more $$
and seeing a b18c3 with a b16 head or if one was actualy used by spoon i wouldnt be suprised, after all it is a b18c block and its probably a VERY cheap swap over there, i mean how many times do you see a b18c1 with a b16 head over here?

<pre>B18c3 gsr engine complete package w / at gear box. High performance jdm engine with low mileage and good quality. </pre>
Engine: B18C3 GSR. Displacement: 1.8L. Front Clip. Units Available: SOLD OUT $2700.00 ...
i dont know, it seems perfectly logical to me that its a gsr from singapore/ and whatever other names popped up while searching, but even if my only line of reasoning was that its not a type r becaus WE would see alot more of them would be good enough for me, how is it we salvage itr **** from canada, uk, and tons and tons from japan but never come across this? becaus its a chinease/other asian counrys prodominitley automatic gsr swap, hell we dont even see alot of jdm automatic swaps becaus theyre auto swaps and becaus we DONT want them, theyre not rare swaps, just rare here becaus theres no reason to bring one into the country when you can sell a manual transmission gsr swap 100,000,000 million times easier and for more $$
and seeing a b18c3 with a b16 head or if one was actualy used by spoon i wouldnt be suprised, after all it is a b18c block and its probably a VERY cheap swap over there, i mean how many times do you see a b18c1 with a b16 head over here?
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Is that a picture of the EXACT B18C3...no, Im not blind, i Seen PR3 stamped on the head, and i know the difference between a ITR manifold and a GSR manifold...Stop posting if you dont have any helpful info.


