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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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ok so...I like how the AP2 cluster's water temp and gas gauges have more bars than AP1...

However, I have an AP1 and am very unwilling to switch to an (inferior and slow hehe) AP2.

How to remedy the situation? buy a (possibly stolen) AP2 cluster off eBay and swap it into my car.

My question is this: are the instrument clusters directly swappable, or will some other components be needed?

Addendum A: Will Honda change the mileage on the new cluster to match that of the car's current cluster?

Thanks for any and all help!
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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Default Re: AP2 cluster into AP1? (kalm_traveler)

plugs are diff from what i heard... you do know that there is a 9k redline ap2 version cluster right?
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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Default Re: AP2 cluster into AP1? (kalm_traveler)

^^^what he said

also i dont see the purpose of swtiching. i like how the ap1 cluster is symetrical looking
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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Default Re: AP2 cluster into AP1? (ReddotsS2K)

there is an AP2 style gauge with a 9k redline. they were put in the JDM AP2's cause those AP2's had an f20c (wonder why they did that......ANYWAY). I've been trying to find one for several months now with no luck. If you find one let me know. The only mod you would have to do is have it rewired to show MPH. This guy does the conversion.
http://www.marklamond.co.uk/pr...s.htm
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by S@nt0s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">plugs are diff from what i heard... you do know that there is a 9k redline ap2 version cluster right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Aye, the EDM and JDM ones are 9k, which is what I'm after. My only worry was the physical swap (mounting size, points, depth etc and wiring, but since the way they function is the same I'd be surprised if it changed).

Megalomaniac001:
All s2000 clusters (possibly the newer Civic ones too since they are also digital) can toggle between KM/H and MP/H with a button on the front, so no rewiring is needed.
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 12:01 AM
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Default Re: AP2 cluster into AP1? (kalm_traveler)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kalm_traveler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Megalomaniac001:
All s2000 clusters (possibly the newer Civic ones too since they are also digital) can toggle between KM/H and MP/H with a button on the front, so no rewiring is needed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

according to the mark lamond website the jdm and edm clusters only show the km/h that it needs to be rewired to show mp/h. dunno if that is true or not haven't tried or seen it happen.

if anyone knows where to find this or if anyone has one pm me and ill buy it!!!
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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Default Re: AP2 cluster into AP1? (megalomaniac001)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by megalomaniac001 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

according to the mark lamond website the jdm and edm clusters only show the km/h that it needs to be rewired to show mp/h. dunno if that is true or not haven't tried or seen it happen.

if anyone knows where to find this or if anyone has one pm me and ill buy it!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
My bad - you were half right on that. This is what he says on his website:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MarkLamond.co.uk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Services Offered:
Conversion of S2000 cluster to operate from standard Honda sensors.
Odometer reprogramming.
Enable KPH/MPH switching function (not enabled at factory on JDM clusters).
Alteration of "red-line" area on rev counter</TD></TR></TABLE>

and here is a pic he hosts of an EDM cluster (I'm putting it on Imageshack to not leech his bandwidth):

On the unhappy side - he has clear pics of all 3 variations of the cluster and it's obvious that they have very different plugs after all so now I gotta get a cluster harness as well lol
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Default Re: AP2 cluster into AP1? (kalm_traveler)

yea i was tracking one down for mine back in spring
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